Am I NuTz? Need Opinions on Monolithic Bullets

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Joshua M. Smith, Mar 31, 2011.

  1. Joshua M. Smith

    Joshua M. Smith New Member

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    Hello,

    The sight modification thing alone is not going to cut it as a business. However, I do want to make this work.

    I was looking at bullets for reloading the Mosin-Nagant yesterday. Most .30 caliber bullets are .308", but MNs take .311 diameter bullets.

    I'm going to be casting for them, no doubt -- but I'd like something more.

    I got to looking at what is manufactured by whom, and I could find no monolithic copper bullets in .311", just .308".

    I'm going to talk to a machinist, if I can find one who knows guns, about making a fixture that would allow me to either turn or swage copper (I do not know how much pressure I would need to swage, but it's likely a lot. I'll likely turn them).

    Now, done right, these will be precision bullets. I'll have a flat nose on them as well so they'll have a bit of terminal performance for coyotes and such.

    Besides being loadable in the MN, the SKS, AK47, .303 Enfield, and several others take this size bullet.

    The one I'm basing things on will be optimized for a 1:9.5" twist, but depending upon jig manufacturing costs, I may make some that are a bit shorter and a bit longer as well. this would give the approximate lengths of 147grn, 180grn, and 200grn bullets.

    Now, I need to gauge interest. These things would cleanly take coyote.

    I need to know if there's interest, though. If I go to the trouble to set this up and sell them beside my sights so I can actually start operating as a business, would there be continued interest in them?

    Thank you,

    Josh
     
  2. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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  3. Joshua M. Smith

    Joshua M. Smith New Member

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    Thanks, Capt.

    Do you suppose the backorders are because demand is outstripping supply?

    Josh
     
  4. Colossal Urprising

    Colossal Urprising New Member

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    Those aren't the right bullet for a Mosin though. Nagants fire 7.62X54R, not 39s
     
  5. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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  6. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    the demand isnt high so the supply is low companies such as those mentioned above make limited runs as tooling is expensive and will make more once supplies are gone and they have time to make them. so while there is a demand it isnt a big one. reason being is there are a LOT of surplus rounds that come in non-reloadable cases. reloadable brass for those rounds isnt terribly common. in the future that MIGHT change as the supply of cheap ww2 surplus dries up.

    the x54r and x39 part refers to the case the bullet itself is the same in both cartridges 7.62 measuring .311 at the base. he is looking to make just the bullet portion for reloaders.


    one of the reasons i dont own a mosin is because finding a reliable source of reloadable brass and and finding a reliable sources of cheap .311 bullets is harder for me than finding components fr my .458socom.
     
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  7. jpattersonnh

    jpattersonnh Active Member

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