AK upgrade

Discussion in 'AK & SKS Discussion' started by Biohazurd, Sep 16, 2009.

  1. Biohazurd

    Biohazurd New Member

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    Sorry im sure this has been posted before but ive searched the site over and over and i cant find any specific information regarding my questions. I have owned a Wasr-10 for a few years now and enjoy it alot but i have the crazy urge to buy a bit higher quality one. Something that is well fitted and not as wobbely as my Wasr. Not to say the wasr isnt reliable, (which it is of course.) Im looking for something mid priced in the 600-700 dollar range, possibly a bit higher if a nice Ak it is... Also if you make a suggestion to a particular model or brand a link to a reliable online dealer if (If you know of one.) Would also be helpful. Any Help on this subject would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

    Charlie
     
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  2. squirrelblaster

    squirrelblaster New Member

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    id say that in your price range id probably buy a Yugo M70 either with the under folding stock or without that up to you... i think they are probably the best in that range...just make sure that it is not one of the ones that century put together from a kit.... they assemble guns like drunk monkeys....... they can be bought at most of the well known sites like classicarms.com

    have a good day, and good luck.
     

  3. Biohazurd

    Biohazurd New Member

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    Ive checked quite a few sites for the M70 but most seem to have only the folding stock AB2 version, and i really would rather have full stock AB1, seeing as it along with my wasr are mostly range guns as well as home defence the full stock is much more comfortable to shoot imo...

    Also what would a common online price be for the M70AB1, and any suggestions of online dealers that might have it in stock?
     
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  4. crockett007

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    You might want to consider a Norinco MAK, if you don't mind not having a bayonet lug, etc. They are available (milled, in your range or less) and stamped. They have the best trigger of any production AK IMHO, and the receiver, trunnion and barrel are thicker. (1.5mm)

    For more traditional tastes, pre-ban 56's are out there as well, and prices in general seem to be coming down
     
  5. slowryde45

    slowryde45 New Member

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    if you wanted to save up a little bit more, these are some of the best of what is out there...

    k-var Arsenal Inc AK's

    Arsenal Inc puts out some of the best AK's out there right now, IMHO.

    For something more in that price range...

    J&G Sales

    I like their Bulgarian models and the Polish Tantal w/ folding stock, but they are AK-74. So you'd be using 5.45x39 ammunition and mags - not sure if that would be an issue for you.

    You might also consider the VZ2008, which is a copy of the Czech VZ58, in 7.62x39, will take all the same mags and ammunition as your WASR.

    Or the Yugo M70AB2, with underfolder stock, or the Yugo RPK M72 rifle.


    You might also look on Gunbroker

    Slo
     
  6. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    The Polish tantal has been the gun of interest for me lately. A guy form the range described his as "One shootin' son of a *****!" It seems to be solid, but I've been hearing so many bad reviews about CAI, however I have never personally had a problem with any of the WASRs from them.

    The advantage of the 74 variants is there is plenty of cheap ammo available, although it is mostly at least mildly corrosive.
     
  7. Ram Rod

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  8. mpd8488

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    Like someone else said you may want to keep waiting. Prices are steadily declining. You already have a reliable shooter. That 600-700 price range may come close to buying you an Arsenal AK in a few months time if this decline keeps up.
     
  9. diggsbakes

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    That's a big "if". I've been playing that game for a while and I hope some little event doesn't screw me. Prices are looking so sweet I saw WASR 10 at Big R for $399. That's comin' close to half of the peak. Which of course is when I bought my last one...
     
  10. slowryde45

    slowryde45 New Member

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    That's a decent price on the WASR 10. They aren't bad, but see if you can look through a few different ones, look down the sights to make sure the front sights aren't canted and that everything lines up. That will also give you the chance to pick through them to find one that gives you the warm and fuzzies, as far as fit and finish, too. Look at the J & G Sales site:

    J & G Sales

    To get an idea of all the different 'flavors' of WASR 10's that are available right now, as well as a few other choices in AK's, too.

    Slo;)
     
  11. Seadog75

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    Here is the page to centerfire systems. The prices have dropped ALOT!

    Centerfire Systems - AK Firearms

    I recomend the yugo undrfolder. Yugos are the crem de la crem. But you said that you dont want a under folder yugo so next up I recomend a bulgarian. Unless the specs have changed they have a 1.5 mil reciever like the yugos, beefier milled parts, and the barrels are crome lined wich alot of people prefer for maintenanvce reasons. It meets your requierments and price range.

    These prices are reflective of pre obama prices of more than a year ago and are very fair!
     
  12. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    Yeah, They look pretty much identical to the AKs on several dealers websites and the ones at my local gun store.

    They're all from parts kits assembled by CAI. Same selection.

    There are other builders besides Arsenal for a good AK. Lancaster Consulting offers a lifetime factory warranty on their builds. Look around.
     
  13. Seadog75

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    The 5.45x39 bulgy and yugo M70B are parts kit made but the bulgy 7.62x39 is a bulgarian import and considered to be one of the better made in resent years.
     
  14. ARnoob

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    There are several options available through Classic Arms. Theses guys have some of the best prices around. I've purchased several rifles from them:

    Classic Arms Inc.


    There's a BULGARIAN SSR-85C AK RIFLE for $649.95. These are considered to be pretty nice shooters.


    They also have the 1975 AK GP 7.62X39 S/A RIFLE, which is made of Romanian and US made parts, but uses more US made parts (barrel and receiver) than the average Romanian AK. I've heard good things about them. They're going for $479.95.


    And they have the YUGO M70 AB2 RIFLE (which I own and love) for $549.95. These rifles are great! I bought mine as my first AK several years ago and paid $700 for it.

    Good luck!
     
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  15. Route 66 Rambler

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    My Lancaster was 700 new in the box, and it is the tightest fitting, furthest hitting AK I have ever handled. It feels more like an M1 carbine than an AK. A lot more kick to it than other AKs I have used, and mine at least is way more accurate.
     
  16. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    That was in 7.62, right? How are the groups from 100 yards? I'm looking in the 5.45 Bulgy's, they are supposed to provide even more accuracy. What do you think? Have you shot any of them?
     
  17. hillmillenia

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    The Romanian AK's are very good guns.
    I mean it's an AK, they are like Planet of the apes type weapons that work. I took an SAR-1 in 7.62X39mm and updated it with a bayo-lug gas block, had the muzzle threaed and put a Romanian side folder on it, I recently switched the forearm back to a standard laminated. The grip is a US FAL type to keep it legal.
    [​IMG]
     
  18. magnumman

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    This is a great gun but it will NOT take AK mags. infact, ammo is the only thing that the vz58/2008 and the AK's have in common other than look from 20 feet away.

    I have heard quite a bit of trash talking of the 2008 but I have to say that mine is an excelent gun. Cheaper than an AK, lighter, better overall design, and still shoots x39.
     
  19. vjf915

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    First of all, congrats on bumping a nearly 2 year old thread. Second, you are wrong. Arsenal uses Saiga's as a base gun to convert their rifles. Saiga's, in stock form, will TAKE an AK mag, but will not feed properly. You can install a "bullet guide" onto a Saiga and it will accept and properly feed standard AK mags. This part costs $15-$20. When Arsenal converts their rifles, they also install bullet guides, and therefore Arsenal AK rifles will accept AK mags.
     
  20. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    Totally agree on the (terrible) "thread-bump", but I don't think he is referring to Saigas. I believe he is referring to VZ58s, which won't take an AK mag and are basically a completely different firearm. Decent design, but not nearly as versatile, due to the lack of aftermarket parts. Everything will "almost" fit and replacement parts were an issue for some time (may not be now, I don't know).

    The VZ mags are 3x the cost of AK mags. . .