AK ammo question

Discussion in 'AK & SKS Discussion' started by Gubba, Jul 4, 2009.

  1. Gubba

    Gubba New Member

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    Now that I am a new (and proud) owner of a WASR (200lb wild pig-1st time out), I have an ammo question. I'm a new hunter. I have, so far, just bought small boxes of Wolf fmj or Yugo sp, I want to buy 1000 rnds. and have been looking at Gun Broker, etc. There is a lot of fmj and hp. Some of the ads talk about the fmj as being range and practice rounds but my pig went down just fine (although I got a little exited and it may have been quantity rather than quality of shots). I need quidance on recommendations for "all 'round", so I can make a better decision before I buy. Thanks.
     
  2. opaww

    opaww New Member

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    The FMJ is a good round, it has a little bit deeper penetration, but the hollow points will expand more and do a lot more damage. The most important thing to me is bullet placement and not what a bullet can or cannot do as damage goes. A well-placed shot to the head or hart will result in a death regardless if you use a FMJ or hollow point.

    I use both FMJ and hollow points in my SKS, they will both have about the same ballistics going down range and accuracy will not very much. Where boar hunting goes I would more then likely use the FMJ for the deeper penetration.

    Just my 2 cents worth
     

  3. Steviepc7

    Steviepc7 New Member

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    damn...hunting with an ak? is that even legal
     
  4. Shotgun Shooter

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    There are areas where its legal.
    Depends on the area and what you are hunting.

    S.S.
     
  5. Gubba

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    Dunno, but it was sweet. Lots of noise, lots of smoke and dead pig (and it wasn't white with a curly tail). Easy to carry in the 4-wheeler too. Did it in Texas and it was on private land where the suckers were tearing up pastures real bad and it legal at any time to rid these pests from production land. Had to be care though. Lots of cattle and horses in some parts and saw about 300 deer, but can't do them.......yet.
     
  6. c3shooter

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    MOST 7.62 X 39 Hollow Point is made that way for accuracy, not expansion. For expansion (hunting) there is a soft point bullet. You are attempting to increase the size of the wound channel, in an effort increase the rate of bleeding out, impacting a major organ, cutting major nerves, etc. This a balanced agaisnt the DEPTH of the wound channel (you NEED penetration) Hit a deer with a FMJ, and the deer may die- but likely to be somewhere a mile away. A gent that TEACHES veterinary science and is a hunter once said "You really want two holes in the critter- one to let air in, one to let blood out."

    Yes, I know about headshots- but at any real distance, on a moving animal smaller than an elephant, that can be real hard to do.
     
  7. diggsbakes

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    The 7.62 x 39mm cartrige is suitable for hunting, however most states require that you only use a 5 round mag in the weapon. The SJSP (semi-jacketed soft point) is best for hunting medium sized game. It is typically a 154 grain bullet, while the FMJs and JHPs are usually 122-125 grains. For practice I use surplus FMJs from whatever country is still shipping out cheap sardine cans for 19-23 cents/round. The can be found all over the web. Never hunted much myself though (although I can). Just love shootin.
     
  8. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    There is no magazine restriction in Texas except when hunting migratory birds (Federal law).

    Hogs are not game animals and there are no real restrictions in hunting them. We have so dang many of these nasty critters, you are encouraged to kill as many as you can. Some areas employ professional hunters to thin the herds.
     
  9. Gubba

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    When I was in Texas, my Son-in-Law told me there were a couple of "pro" hog "removers" in the area. They could go in a large ranch and clear a couple hundred hogs in a day. That sounds crazy to me, but I know the hog problem is horrible and all over the whole country and these guys like what they do and smile a lot. I know there were over 200 on the ranch I was at but we didn't see any herd. We saw a couple and got one. My buddy missed. HA HA
     
  10. FCross7

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    I think Florida is the same way, but am not sure. I tried looking online but couldn't find anything. I just ordered a DPMS LR-308B(.308 AR) that I plan on doing some hunting with and was wondering if there was a maximum magazine capacity for deer hunting. Anyone know where I might find such info?

    We have the same problem in Florida. In fact, I'm taking my new AR next weekend and me can my cousin are heading down to my grandparents Orange Grove to see if we can kill a few. Should be pretty fun.

    -Fred
     
  11. RL357Mag

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    DPMS does sell a 4 rd. mag for that rifle for hunting. As stated above, many states have a 5 rd. mag capacity. Some states prohibit more than 10 rds. for any purpose. DPMS ships there LR308 rifles with (2) 20 rd. mags. Actually I believe they are 19 rd. mags..
     
  12. FCross7

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    I saw where they sold the 4 and 10 rd. mags and thought about just playing it safe and buying a 4 rd, but they're like $50 so I was trying to figure out if I need one for sure. Maybe I'll just try calling FWC.

    -Fred
     
  13. RL357Mag

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    Several places sell DPMS mags for $29 and $39. I saw the Sportsman's Guide had them also, but they won't ship to NY....Also either CDNN Sports or J&G Sales in Shotgun News..problem is, the 4 rd. is the same price as the 19 rd!
     
  14. FCross7

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    Sweet, I would definitely order one if I could get it for $29. I'll shop around and see what I can find. Once again, thanks for the help.

    -Fred
     
  15. FCross7

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    Just did a search on google and found some for $30 or $35, but everyone is out of them. I'll try stopping by my local gun shop and see if they can order me one.

    -Fred
     
  16. janikphoto

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    Is that really a problem?!? It's a specialized tool that you need for certain situations. If you need to buy it, then you need to buy it.

    It's not like they price magazines based on the number of rounds they can hold. They base price on cost of manufacture, number of units that will be sold, etc. If everyone bought a 4 round mag, I bet the price would drop quite a bit.

    Anyway, it's good that you all are mentioning potential restrictions regarding hunting. I'd hate for someone new to the sport of shooting to get slapped with a huge fine because they just didn't know. Before shooting ANYTHING live, you should check with the local and/or state government and make sure you aren't breaking any laws!
     
  17. RL357Mag

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    This is EXACTLY why it's a problem...DPMS knows the restrictions exist, and this is why they price ALL there magazines equally....because they CAN. No other magazines will fit a DPMS .308 except those made for the Knight SR-25 which are the same magazines at the same price!
    That's exactly what most other manufacturers do! Are you saying 20 rd. AR mags are the same price as 30 rd. mags? The 4 rd. DPMS mag is less than half the materials of the 19 rd. mag...
     
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  18. Benning Boy

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    I concur. A 40 round mag is certainly pricier than a 30. A drum, well, do the math.

    I don't understand why a plastic magazine plug isn't offered super cheap, something that would block off the common 30 round mag to accomodate only 4 rounds.

    Wait, gotta run to the patent office.