ak-74

Discussion in 'AK & SKS Discussion' started by gunnovice09, May 28, 2012.

  1. gunnovice09

    gunnovice09 New Member

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    How does the ak74 rate overall compared to the Ak 47 or sks? Is the 5.45 39 more accurate than the 7.62? Thanks guys.
     
  2. shootitout

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    The 5.45 is more accurate land there is an argument about which one has more stopping power. I like the 7.62x39
     

  3. unclebear

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    the AK74 actually has more range then the AK47 because the round is smaller lighter and travels faster. When it impacts a human torso it startes to tumble causing more damage. Really it's the russians answer to our 5.56 and on full auto it's more controllable then the aK47. When it comes to penetration the AK47 will go straight through a cinder block wall where the AK74 might or might not depending on the situation.

    Personally I prefer the 7.62x39 ammo is cheap easy to find and knocks the living hell out of what ever it hits.
     
  4. shootitout

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    The AK 74 also has less recoil so it can be held on target when being shoot fast. But the 5.45 surplus is carosive so its going to be harder to clean. Sry 4 the double post .
     
  5. gunnovice09

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    Thanks for the info guys
     
  6. Werminator

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    Another advantage to the 5.45 round is in the weight department. The same number of rounds probably requires 10% less space and adds less weight to your load out than the 7.62... Either one are fun to plink... Either one can and would be lethal... I am in a similiar hunt for my next SHTF gun and I think my plan is to find a gun that fits and appeals to me, then I can worry about what bullets it is designed to throw...
     
  7. 7.62 Man

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    Yes the AK74 round does tumble when it hits a soft target that is why it is called the poison bullet. The 7N6 steel core 5.45x39 will also punch through 1/2 steel at 100yds. I found this out by shooting a the 100yd gong at the range not knowing my scope was off. I was seeing the sparks coming off of the leg but I was thinking it was just bouncing off the gong until I went down range to look at a paper target. There wasn't any holes in my paper but when I looked at the gong I could see all the fresh hits were holes through the leg. :eek:
    So I don't know about cinder blocks but steel is no problem.
     
  8. gunnovice09

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    That's awesome
     
  9. sputnik1988

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    I would prefer the 5.45 by far for a go to gun, if its just for fun then either is good.

    Consider both, maybe a Arsenal SGL-31 or Saiga for 5.45 and a WASR or SKS for 7.62x39.
     
  10. gunnovice09

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    I already have a yugo sks which is y I was wanting to see what the 5.45 is like. I love my sks
     
  11. sputnik1988

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    I would definitely go with the 5.45x39 then, like I said the Arsenal is top of the line at about $800, they are professionally converted Russian Saiga rifles, so its a real russian AK, made in the same factory as the full auto issue Rusky 74's.

    If you want to save some cash, you could cut out the middleman and just buy the Saiga outright and convert it yourself. They can be had for about $350
     
  12. gunnovice09

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    I don't really like the looks of the saiga
     
  13. sputnik1988

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    The only difference between a Saiga and an AK is the stock and handguard. Both can be changed.

    Top is a Saiga, bottom is a converted Saiga.
     

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  14. gunnovice09

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    Now u have me intrigued lol is it hard convert
     
  15. sputnik1988

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    YouTube 'Saiga conversion' its a little easier than it looks, it will save you about $100 over the Arsenal.

    The 5.45 version doesnt need the bullet guide from what I hear.
     
  16. gunnovice09

    gunnovice09 New Member

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    What's a bullet guide
     
  17. sputnik1988

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    It's what allows the standard AK mags to be used.
     
  18. gunnovice09

    gunnovice09 New Member

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    Hmm u just started a fire in me lol
     
  19. FlukeLSX

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    AK74 is based on AK47 design it still has the performance you would expect. SKS's are actually based on AK design. However, I've never heard anyone describe the SKS's as reliable as the AK line.

    5.45 is more accurate, 7.62 has more penetration power.

    5.45's are designed to kill. Being a lighter weight round, they are infamous for tumbling and bouncing off bone inside the body. So their killing power is high. While 7.62's will not always kill and were designed to penetrate bullet proof vests and walls.
     
  20. sputnik1988

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    Actually the SKS was designed and saw trials during WWII, the AK was designed later, they are totally different and neither is based on the other. The 7.62x39 was based on the 7.92x33 kurtz as a lighter recoiling 7.62x54R, more suitable for battle. the 5.45x39 was designed after the 5.56x45.

    You are correct about the accuracy vs penetration though.

    5.45x39 is cheaper, recoils less, is more accurate and is more suitable as a 'combat' round.

    7.62x39 is better for hunting (with proper ammo)
     
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