AK 5.45 or 7.62

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by MrRecon1, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. MrRecon1

    MrRecon1 New Member

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    Hey guys I am in the market for an AK style rifle but am not sure whether I should get it in 7.62 or 5.45. I was leaning toward 7.62 because IO jnc makes one that's around $500 that's black synthetic. I wanna keep the price under $600 so if anyone can give me suggestions on either the caliber or a brand of AK that would be awesome!!!!
     
  2. KalashnikovBlood

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    Saiga is the one I'd get for around $400. That way you have a quality AK and extra cash for parts. They have synthetic stocks and hand guards

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  3. MrRecon1

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    Yeah but they cannot take normal ak47 magazines....I need to purchase the surefire ones If I am correct....and would the stock he able to be changed easily from a sported to a pistol rip rip style?
     
  4. unclebear

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    just talking about different guns the AK74 is pretty easy to shoot on full auto, the round is small and doesn't hit as hard as the AK47, also just from what I've seen AK74s cost more. I prefer the AK47 (7.62X39) ammo is pretty damn cheap, the local gun shops has AK for $500-600 and the mags are dirt cheap.
     
  5. MrRecon1

    MrRecon1 New Member

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    But I was looking at the saiga style 7.62 and they cannot take normal mags
     
  6. AndyRexia

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    You would need to convert it so it would accept hi cap double stack mags and a pistol grip.
     
  7. MrRecon1

    MrRecon1 New Member

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    How do I convert it?
     
  8. KalashnikovBlood

    KalashnikovBlood New Member

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    Knock out the current trigger group pins and move it forward. Then take your pistol grip and put it where the trigger used to be.

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  9. AndyRexia

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    From what I've read on here, the best/easiest way to do it is with a conversion kit. Carolina Shooters Supply has them and people seem to like them. I bought mine already converted so I dont know how difficult it is. Again, I've read on this site that it's not hard to do. However you get it done, it would be worth it IMO. I really enjoy my Saiga.
     
  10. jeremyx28

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    This is my Saiga 223 when I first picked it up at my lgs


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    This is my Saiga after about 25 minutes of work


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    I only paid $378 for my rifle and about $150 in accessories. I bought surefire mags because its a 223 however I think the other two calibers can use surplus mags with the proper bullet guide
     
  11. AndyRexia

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    MrRecon lool at jeremy's rifle. Notice how he took off the original stock and put on an adjustable stock with built in pistol grip. It's a way around converting. Notice how theres still a gap between the trigger group and the mag release. Thats one way to go. Like I said, IMO converting is the best way to go and it's worth the effort :)
     
  12. MrRecon1

    MrRecon1 New Member

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    What do you mean by IMO? And Even though he changed the stock can he use normal mags?
     
  13. sputnik1988

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    Saiga rifles don't have an AK bullet guide, that's what keeps the mags from working, install a bullet guide and you can use the AK mags. The stock has nothing to do with the mags. The stock shown doesn't require any conversion and installs in minutes. If you want a true AK look, you need to move the trigger forward, as others have said, I would use a conversion kit. It sounds a bit overwhelming, but from what I hear, even a beginner can do it.

    Arsenal Inc. converts them for sale, but they go for between $800-$1000. Convert it yourself and save a ton, It doesn't get any cooler than a Russian made AK.
     
  14. AndyRexia

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    ^ what he said. IMO = in my opinion
     
  15. MrRecon1

    MrRecon1 New Member

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    I saw bullet guides for 20 dollars and I think I'm going to buy one with my new Saiga AK 7.62
     
  16. therewolf

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    IMHO,I'd say the crux of your decision should focus on whether you desire

    the punch of the 7.62, or accuracy of the 5.45.

    Accuracy, of course, generally costs more...
     
  17. MrRecon1

    MrRecon1 New Member

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    Yeah true and isn't the 7.62 more common to find compared to 5.45
     
  18. sputnik1988

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    If you don't mind the corrosive stuff the 5.45 is CHEAP.
    The 7.62 x 39is not too bad for the surolus either but not as affordable as 5.45x39.5.

    But if surplus was to ever dry up, the 7.62 would still be readily available, I wouldn't bet on it fir the 5.45 unless the popularity keeps picking up.

    I think I would go with the 5.45 if I had to choose one.


    Accuracy - 5.45 x 39
    Range - 5.45 x 39
    Ammo cost - 5.45 x 39
    Knockdown - 7.62 x 39
    Ammo availability - 7.62 x 39
    Recoil - 5.45 x 39
     
  19. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The 5.45X39 is far more effective as a military round than the 7.62X39.

    That's why the old Soviet Union adopted it as standard in 1974.
     
  20. Sooie

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    I have a saiga 545 and use standard Russian mags with no problems. The 545 really doesn't need a bullet guide to use normal AK mags.