AK 47:Do people really know what rifle are they taking about???

Discussion in 'AK & SKS Discussion' started by theeuropeangoth, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. theeuropeangoth

    theeuropeangoth New Member

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    I'm really getting tired of this.Some people call every rifle which is a member of the AK Family ''AK 47''.The majority of the AK family members are based on the AKM, not on the AK 47.The AK 47 has been produced since 1949 till 1959, then it was substituted by the AKM.
    An original AK 47 has:
    1)A different receiver
    2)Longer and different handguards
    3)A different gas piston
    4)Slightly different sight.
    5)A different top cover
    7)It is a rifle produced in the period 1949-1959 by Izhmash in Izhevsk, Russia.

    Any derivative/member of the AK family that has been built after 1959(all of them) should be not called ''AK 47''.
    Calling your rifle ''AK 47'' for any reason is just like calling it M16 or Gatling Gun(Since the final result is a piece evidence of your ignorance concerning the weapon you're carrying)

    Example given:

    Zastava M70 B1/AB2=Yugo AK 47=Serbian AK 47
    Norico Type 56=Cinese AK 47
    IMI Galil=Izraeli AK 47(so disturbing...it is Valmet Rk 62)
    Tabuk=Iraqi M70 AK 47(Ok...one of the longest name in the world(have you ever seen one of them?It is a Zastava M70 converted assault rigle to marksman rifle)

    And now...let compare some AK rifles:

    ORIGINAL AK 47(Type A, the first type ever.Produced:1947-1949))
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    ORIGINAL AK 47(Type B, issued to the Russian troops in the period 1949-1959.During this period, the Red Army tested it and suggested some more improvements, next step:AKM.P.S.:Look closely at the receiver, butt sock, top cover, etc if still think you own an AK 47)
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    ORIGINAL AKM
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    ZASTAVA M70 AB2
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    IMI GALIL
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    Did you figure what's the difference?
     
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  2. safedman

    safedman New Member

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    Cut back on the coffee....:cool:
    As long as you know the difference.
     

  3. kycol

    kycol New Member

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    Glad I got a SKS
     
  4. gunsmoke11

    gunsmoke11 New Member

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    My pre-ban Mitchell Arms that I've had since 1988 is stamped both AK47 and RPK47. This can be seriously confusing for someone my age when choosing the correct name. I'd hate to go against what the mfg stamped on it.
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  5. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    I've got an AKM Romanian 1967 WASR 10/63. It is commonly referred to as an AK 47 because it's easier for others to conceive mentally, and an AKM is an added modification to the original AK 47, which makes the rifle easier to handle. It is as if the same product went through a slight process commonly recognized as 'New & Improved.' It's still an AK 47 that shoots the same 7.62x39. To make the distinction between the two is 'shop talk;' to make the distinction otherwise in a pedantic manner is 'splitting hairs.'
     
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  6. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    In the US it has just become a matter of convenience to refer to guns in this class as "AK 47s" or "AK 47 clones" because of all the variations.

    In early production there were different "Types" as well, since the earliest sheet metal receivers proved to be weak and they produced milled receivers for a while until they came out with the AKM with its improved stamped sheet metal receiver.

    Since the majority if Avtomat Kalashnikova inspired rifles in the US are semi auto only I usually call them AK clones.
     
  7. KG7IL

    KG7IL Active Member

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    Nice AK's . . . .
     
  8. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    Thanks... Now I actually want a AK-47.. :( I like the one in the first pic....

    Can you get a "real" Russian AK-47 thats converted to semi-auto?
     
  9. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

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    I have a jeep...

    'Ugh, no you don't. Jeep was originally produced in the 1940's, today.... Wrangler... Cherokee... Liberty... Comanchee... You drive a Cherokee. A grand Cherokee at that.'

    Yeah.... I drive a jeep.
     
  10. jon1992d

    jon1992d New Member

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    Ya Im with you. Call it what you want there all the same concept. Theres thousands of different Ar 15s mine is an m1a bunch of numbers and letters but i call an Ar 15. Same goes for if I had an Ak..
     
  11. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Silly Americans are lazy with language. There is only one maker of AR-15's, Colt. Everything else is a semi-auto rifle patterned after the AR-15. Then to confuse things even further, the original AR-15, built by Armalite (division of Fairchild and not the same as the current Armalite) was a select fire "assault rifle" intended for export and US military trials. Some of the first US Air Force M-16's were actually AR-15's and marked as such.

    AK-47 has become a generic term for an auto loading rifle based on Kalashikov's design (or was it actualy Hugo Schmeisser's design?). Then the media muddles things further by referring to any auto loading rifle as an AK-47, just like they refer to any auto loading handgun as a Glock.
     
  12. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    stay out of the ar15 world if the ak47/akm thing is getting to ya. that business will drive you over the edge then come come back to punch your mother...

    the clip on the top ak47 pic does look funny though

    heh
     
  13. FullautoUSA

    FullautoUSA Welcoming Committee/ Resident Pellet Gunner Lifetime Supporter

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    you mean MAGAZINE!
     
  14. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    actually they clip in place... with a clip!!
     
  15. FullautoUSA

    FullautoUSA Welcoming Committee/ Resident Pellet Gunner Lifetime Supporter

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    Oh you're talking about the magazine catch
     
  16. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    it clips right in the clipwell and snaps in place.
     
  17. FullautoUSA

    FullautoUSA Welcoming Committee/ Resident Pellet Gunner Lifetime Supporter

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    Magwell you mean
     
  18. hoovco

    hoovco New Member

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    I hate when people call my Sumatra "coffee". There is CLEARLY a difference.

    ... but really. Just enjoy the fact that someone shares your love for the AK variants and don't be all bent outta shape if they don't call a WASR an AKM or whatever. If it looks like an AK, it's gonna get called an AK.
     
  19. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    im sure we have all seen the news media call red ryders ak47s
     
  20. Gizord1

    Gizord1 New Member

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    There is a pic floatin around the interwebz that almost exactly corresponds to this...
    Oh wait, I happened to have it on my iPhone, here it is:
     

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