Air rifles as a hedge against new firearms and ammo restrictions???

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by orangello, Nov 7, 2012.

  1. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    OK, the only air rifle i have is .177 break action Daisy. It is heck on squirrels, but i wouldn't want to try it on anything larger (though a buddy shot a possum in the posterior with acceptable results).

    I am wondering about the use of larger caliber air rifles as a way around restrictions on buying ammunition or conventional rifles. I understand there are air rifles of calibers/FPS sufficient for taking deer and wild hogs. Air rifles don't require an FFL or paperwork to purchase, and their ammunition doesn't contain explosives, so i would think they would be much harder to restrict to consumers.

    I am wondering about the projectiles for these rifles and the complexity of their construction. Could i reasonably mold my own projectiles?

    Opinions? Information? Heckling?



    http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoo...ctLoad;cat104792580;cat104690880;cat104185980 .25 caliber at 900FPS.

    http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoo...ctLoad;cat104792580;cat104690880;cat104185980 .357 caliber, seems a bit more cabable 175gr @ 800+ FPS
     
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  2. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Dont be too sure about no restrictions. England has some severe restrictions on power. I have a 22 caliber that would take small game like bunnies. Air rifles are very ammo sensitive.
     

  3. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    That is my main concern: If i were to buy a nice air rifle now, could i mold my own ammo later in more restricted times?

    That is one nice thing about my muzzleloader; i have a mold to make projectiles and have seen some recipes for powder that seem workable.
     
  4. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    Even with their top loading it is only in the 38 special handgun ballistic range. If you are going to spring for the $1350 price tag, just buy a bunch of the bullets(at about a dollar each). Plus the hand pump at $200. Or just use your muzzle loaders.
     
  5. Old_Crow

    Old_Crow New Member

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    I have a 177 Crosman Phantom. It has been tested by a Sheriffs Dept chrono it's real consistent at 1040 fps. It cost less than $100 and 500 pellets are about the same size as can of skoal. The only thing I did to it was rebuild the air cylinder with transmission quality rubber parts.

    If you are worried about martial law and all that I would invest in a quality muzzle loader. One good 50 cal shot is better than no good shots.
     
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  6. kdog

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    Guys,

    please stop this discussion! Why?

    One reason has already been mentioned. Great Britain!
    Another reason is Germany.

    Anti Firearm groups always argue, that you don`t need big bore firearms to perform shooting as a sport. You can shoot airrifels or even better laser rifles.

    And when gun owners take in consideration, that an airrifle could replace some other firearm, for what ever reason, you are giving the antis all the arguments to use against you and to take away your guns or restrict you more.

    Just have a close look at Germany and Britain.
     
  7. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    If you are thinking of something to take deer, look at a crossbow. It would be half the cost of a top end air rifle and the bolts are reusable.
     
  8. BobbyJoe

    BobbyJoe New Member

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    I have a crossman break over. I like it enough, but I would not buy another. I could buy a 22 and a few bricks of ammo for it cost.
     
  9. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Gotta have a doctor's note for a crossbow in MS, for hunting animals legally, anyway. BIL has one; he has a bad eye.

    SHTF, i'd rather have a simpler bow.
     
  10. shadecorp

    shadecorp Active Member Supporter

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    Here,
    where I exist just S.E. of los anus,
    air guns
    B B guns
    are ILLEGAL.
     
  11. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    BobbyJoe,

    It's CROSMAN.... and BREAK BARREL

    I shoot my pellet guns & rifles in-doors all time. It's Great for keeping one's shooting skills up. I've also lowered my backyard squirrel population substantially. One shot, one dead squirrel every time.
     
  12. BobbyJoe

    BobbyJoe New Member

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    Lol. You're right. I wish I had got one with the .22 barrel also.
     
  13. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

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    If we get to the point at which we can only have air rifles, we got bigger problems to deal with other than what game can you take.
     
  14. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    what about the .357 air rifles that they are shooting big game with ????? :confused: Now thats some crazy sh!t if you ask me
     
  15. beastmode986

    beastmode986 New Member

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    Anything bigger than .177 in Illinois and or above 700fps is a firearms....
     
  16. Flat Tire

    Flat Tire New Member

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    It ain't gunna come to that-
     
  17. Mark F

    Mark F New Member Supporter

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    Right. Too many 2nd Amendment believers that simply won't give up their guns. I certainly won't...