Aiming advice

Discussion in 'Range Report' started by TooStrongTerry, Feb 23, 2012.

  1. TooStrongTerry

    TooStrongTerry New Member

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    I'm a new shooter and have been noticing that no matter what firearm I shoot. Its high and to the left. I'm a lefty. For example

    I purchased a ruger 10/22 and took it to the range aside from constant jamming I shot high and to the left. I sold the gun and replaced it with a Savage Mark2 bolt action. I took it out yesterday. I noticed there's was no way to adjust iron sights. I took it out anyways to wear it in and to have fun. 90% of shots were high and to the left. I'm not moving my hands when I'm pulling the trigger. This gun has the lightest trigger pull I've ever felt. I feel as if its the way I'm holding my rifle.

    Now that I think about it...my shotgun was doing the same but I adjusted the sights and now it shoots straight. Is this something thay happens to everyone or am I doing something wrong?...I think I covered everything.any help would be appreciated thanks!

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  2. Georgiahunter

    Georgiahunter New Member

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    I don't know what to tell you. Did you teach yourself how to shoot, or was it someone else? If a righty taught you to shoot, your stance may be for a righty, not a lefty. Just a thought.
     

  3. JTJ

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    Which of your eyes is dominant? Everyone has a dominant eye and it can cause problems if you are left handed with a dominant right eye or right handed with a dominant left eye. Try shooting right handed or closing your right eye while shooting left handed.
     
  4. TooStrongTerry

    TooStrongTerry New Member

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    I'm dominant with my left eye. I kinda taught myself to shoot. The only help I've ever had is with my shotgun. Other than that I'm learning alone

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  5. Triumphman

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    I think you have 2 things going on here. One is how you're seeing the front sight in the cut-out of the rear sight. Top edge of front sight should be even across with top edge of rear sight, with front blade centered, in square notch of rear sight. The other possibility is you are not keeping a good, solid, cheek weld on stock with firm, but not hard(let recoil happen)butt pad placement in shoulder. As to the jams. Try different ammo. You rifle doesn't like the ammo you got. My little Rugers always liked 36gr "Mini Mag" CCI(High Velocity). They'll shoot other hi-velocity ammo, but CCI gave best performance with accuracy. Stinger/Blazer ammo is HYPER-VELOCITY and not recommended. OK for bolt actions, but not semi-autos, unless your rifle/pistol is set up for it. If you're using cheaper, regular velocity type ammo(type found in 500- count bulk box), it doesn't have enough energy to fire-eject-load for a semi-auto. Step up to High-Velocity ammo and your little Ruger should work like a CHAMP. Even if you do get High Velocity ammo, the type you got may not work reliably due to manufacturing differences, so get 1 box, of 2 or 3 different ammo brands to try.
    Sorry I noticed you sold Ruger and went with Savage MkII(very good little bolt action). I have one myself that's a little different than most. It's called a AXIS and less than 300 were built in 2011.
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  6. TooStrongTerry

    TooStrongTerry New Member

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    You have a pic of the axis?

    So...my target should be directly above my front sight while being aligned with my rear sight?

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  7. Jeepergeo

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    How are your groups looking? Focus first on getting consistent, small, tight groups - this requires adjusting your technique. Then work on moving the small, tight groups to the point of desired impact - this requires adjusting your sights.

    At some point, fire a few groups off bags or other solid support. Do the groups using the support look small and tight?

    Poor Groups - Not Small, Not Tight:
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    Better Groups - Much Smaller, Much Tighter (Work towards group this size before trying to move point of impact)
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  8. Jay

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    Back your finger out of the trigger guard a bit. Don't wrap your finger around the trigger. Your finger should contact the trigger face just opposite of the cuticle, at the rear of your fingernail.
     
  9. TooStrongTerry

    TooStrongTerry New Member

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    I just mounted a 4 x 32 scope. I figure that would help. Ill keep you guys posted.

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  10. dteed4094

    dteed4094 New Member

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    In your origional post you may have devulged your problem when you said "pull the trigger". It's squeeze the trigger. Something else you may want to try is follow through, Try to maintain your stance through the shot. In other words try to see the bullet hit your POA. Even though in most cases it is impossible to do, it is the act of trying that makes the follow through.
     
  11. JTJ

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    Blazer is the same as the 40 grn Minimag but not copper coated. I have shot thousands of rounds of Blazer in my 10-22 and other rifles and it always performs well. Stingers are extra high velocity as are the CCI Velocitors. American Eagle 38 grn hp and 40 grn solids work well in my 10-22. Same with Aguila in those weights.
     
  12. TooStrongTerry

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    I understand the whole squeeze deal. I do. But honestly squeezing is quite difficult with this gun cuz the trigger pull is so light. And by follow through do u mean like maintain my hold on the trigger after the shot as well? Cuz I do search for my shot and etc.

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  13. Jeepergeo

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    A scope won't fix the problem if it is a technique problem like jerking, pulling rather than squeezing, breathing, anticipating, or flinching.
     
  14. jjfuller1

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    QUOTE=TooStrongTerry;718131]I understand the whole squeeze deal. I do. But honestly squeezing is quite difficult with this gun cuz the trigger pull is so light. And by follow through do u mean like maintain my hold on the trigger after the shot as well? Cuz I do search for my shot and etc.

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    sounds like mostly technique problems... when i shoot i continue to squezze the trigger till after ive settled from recoil and am mostly looking at the target again. cause no matter how long you hold the trigger it will only bang once. this helps me with follow through at least
     
  15. TooStrongTerry

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    Yeah. I'll try that. I guess I gotta completely readjust my technique. Ill try the whole follow through thing. I think maybe as far as my elevation goes...I've been looking down my sights wrong. That's one of the reasons I put the scope on. And the jerking to the left I have to work on. My trigger pull is about2.5-3 pounds... so as far as I can tell I'm not moving but that is most likely the problem. There was a few time where id form a small group in the middle of my target when I REALLY concentrated but the majority was high/left.

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