Advice on my first handgun, please

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by whispering, Mar 29, 2011.

  1. whispering

    whispering New Member

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    Hi,

    I just joined this forum!

    These handguns will be for fun, recreational range shooting, NOT home defense or to carry......

    I am a NJ resident and I should be getting my FID and 2 permits shortly. I have
    never owned a handgun before and have just started to learn to shoot. I have
    decided my first will be 2 revolvers...a .22 and a .38.

    For the .22. I am willing to buy used in MINT condition and probably new for the
    .38.

    For the .22, I am unsure which revolver, so maybe you all can recommend a
    model to me!!

    For the .38, I am looking at the Ruger GP100, the Smith and Wessen Model 67
    or the Model 15.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    A reasonably priced .22 revolver - whether new or used - is one of the holy grails of the handgun world. Other than S&W, the common choices are Taurus & Charter - neither of which I would buy. Ruger made the SP101 in .22 for a time but they are quite rare and hard to find. A used Dan Wesson can be a great find as well but they are also getting scarce. (I'm assuming you're looking for a DA .22 revolver). The S&W's, both new & used are fine guns but you'll be spending near $700 to get one.

    As for .38 revolvers, I'd recommend getting a .357 and then at least you'll have the option of shooting magnum loads if you desire to. The revolvers you list are great guns as is the S&W 686 which is the .357 version.

    No, I didn't enjoy paying over $600 for this 3 years ago, but it's worth every penny and I could sell it today at a profit in a NY second - a S&W 617 .22 10 shot version...

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  3. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I have really enjoyed my Ruger GP100, 6" barrel. The sights are great and the long barrel tames the recoil.
     
  4. pioneer461

    pioneer461 New Member

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    OK, I hafta ask; why not home defense? Are the NJ police that good? Are they going to be in your house at 3:00 AM when some meth-head kicks in your front door?
     
  5. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Hands down, look for a vintage S&W .357 Rem Mag!

    IMHO, a far superior wheel gun compared to today’s mass-produced offerings. And besides, anyone with CIF (Cash In Fist) can buy a current production gun. A vintage wheel gun has providence, street-cred and no one will come up to you at the range and say, “why don’t you remove that price sticker?”

    With some savy shopping you can save 30-50% off a NIB gun and what’s better than a successful hunt?

    I got this S&W M19-3 P&R 1970 .357 for <$400.

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    With a .357 you can shoot and enjoy the gun with the less expensive .38 Spl ammo 90%+ of the time yet still have a robust revolver capable of tossing Magnum lead when you want.

    I would be glad to help you look for a similar firearm. (All I need to do is re-activate my email notifications of my existing auto-searches for this model.) Let us know what you find.
     
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  6. whispering

    whispering New Member

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    Pinoneer,

    Meth head kicking down my door at 300am?? I mean come on, can you be anymore dramatic?? I DO NOT live in the South Bronx or Detroit...I am in
    the safe suburbs of central NJ!

    I have to be honest...
    Some of these posts in these forums are very unnerving to me. Too many cowboys that almost seem like they are looking forward to using their hand gun
    to kill an intruder. Its like you are rooting for it to happen.
     
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  7. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Kinda like that SAFE "Gun Free Zone" at Virginia Tech? Evil is not constrained by geographic or political borders.

    Never confuse "WILLING" to shoot an intruder with wanting to shoot that same intruder.

    We do not shoot to kill, we shoot to live.

    I'd rather walk down that "South Bronx or Detroit..." [sic] street with any one of these cowboys than a Bill Maher every/any day!

    I'm sorry you feel "...very unnerving..." [sic] about this bite of the reality sandwich.

    Take a gander at this and maybe you will understand our perspective of said sandwich;

    Read this before you decide to carry!
     
  8. Poink88

    Poink88 New Member

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    Contrary to what you posted, most here really wish they don't have to use their gun in self defense but most also believe that it is better to be ready and have something to use than need one and not have it.

    I hope your sense of security does not cost you something dear to you. Criminals do not discriminate and respect no neighborhood or social class.
     
  9. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Yes, I know you don't intend to carry but just for S&G; with a play gun in your safe NJ home, what will you do when NYC collapses and the zombies dare to enter your neighborhood to take your last can of corn?
     
  10. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Whispering,

    I think I understand your intended use. Mostly target and fun shooting! But nothing wrong with using the 4" or 6" 38 or 357 Cal. Pistol for protection also. The good thing, as the guys have mentioned is that if for example the pistol is a 357Mag. You can certainly also shoot 38s in it accurately as well. You can load it with 38 target loads for target shooting and then load her with some Defense Rounds for home protection. The 22 Revolver. The Smith K-22 is a very nice revolver but on the top side regarding cost. My first Revolver was a Ruger Single Six with two cylinders. One was a standard 22 and the other cylinder was a 22 Mag. It was a fine revolver and fun to shoot. Good luck on your search and let us know what you end up with!

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  11. whispering

    whispering New Member

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    I dont get it guys.....

    Why in the world would u ever wanna fire off a .357 round in your own home
    and tear your walls apart and blind u and blow out your ears. A nice .38 revolver
    will MORE than get the job done.
     
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  12. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Seriously guys; that's what my 12 guage pump is for. :rolleyes:


    But seriously, Whispering, if you don't like loud pistols, don't get one; find a nice .22 for target shooting and be done with it. If the sound is really a problem for you (hearing issues), you can buy a device to suppress most of the sound and flash (subject to $200 tax stamp and federal approval).
     
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  13. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    To stop a threat. Why shoot twice?
     
  14. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    The .22 - Get a Smith and Wesson model 17 or 617. I have a 10 shot model 17. It is just a fantastic gun. .22's are notoriously finicky when it comes to ammo. Unlike many other .22's, even high quality .22's, the S&W revolvers will eat any ammo you put in them.

    I'd go with the other's recommendation about the .357. It is by far the most versatile chambering of any revolver caliber.

    And just fyi. There are many on here, not me, who recommend firearms by their experience in law enforcement and combat. They know the very ugly side of man.
     
  15. NGIB

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    Quoted for absolute truth here. You may feel all safe & secure in your quiet suburb - but the bad guys DO NOT respect any boundaries.


    Because I'd rather have some ringing in my ears than not remain among the living. Thankfully we all have the choice to use what we wish to. My nightstand gun is a .357 BTW...
     
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  16. whispering

    whispering New Member

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    Hum...

    So you guys REALLY believe that a .38 revolver will not stop an intruder?? For Instance, the S&W .38 Model 67. You really are expecting
    an armoured gang of 5 thugs to be breaking into your home? I mean come on guys. lets be serious here. A .38 Special, loaded with Glasser Ammo Safety Slugs is the more common sense, practical approach, NOT a .357!

    Also, I have perfect, great hearing, and I wanna keep it that way!!

    You really feel its necessary to have .357 revolver for home defense??
     
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  17. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Is it necessary... probably not. Modern bullet design has made lighter calibers much more effective. But I do believe the .357 is a far more versatile chambering than the .38.

    Whether I was looking for a revolver for defense or sport, I'd still pick the .357. You then have twice as many choices of what you can load and shoot in the same size package.
     
  18. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Not saying there is no difference between the flash & noise of a .38spcl vs. a .357mag round in the same revolver, but have you ever shot a .38spcl indoors? I don't think it would be all that comfortable, either.
     
  19. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    Folks on here a zealots about protecting their hearing. Just start a conversation about shooting .22's in an open field with no chance of echo. I myself fly small aircraft and spend A LOT of money to protect my hearing.

    But let's face it, if you are in the unfortunate position of having to discharge a firearm in your house, the only thing that is going to protect your hearing is the adrenaline washing through your body.
     
  20. whispering

    whispering New Member

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    A .38 Special, loaded with Glasser Ammo Safety Slugs, is the more common sense
    approach, for inside home defense.

    Im my opinion....