Adjustable sights or fixed sights for my first?

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by getem2011, Feb 1, 2012.

  1. getem2011

    getem2011 New Member

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  2. Belltactical

    Belltactical New Member

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    IMHO, if you're getting a target gun go for the adjustable. If its for carry & defense, I'd say siglight fixed.
    But that's just me.
     

  3. Overkill0084

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    Much like many other things in life, the intended use drives the options.
     
  4. getem2011

    getem2011 New Member

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    I'd like to use it for both defense and range. Are they fragile? Do they break easily? This is my first 1911 and don't want to end up with sights I'm not happy with
     
  5. Overkill0084

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    Typical target sights may snag on things. If "defense" means nightstand drawer, then it might not be a problem. If it means carry gun, then fixed are the better choice.
    Then of course there is the other issues. Three dot? Three Dot Night Sights and so on. Black target sights might not be your first choice when responding to a bump in the night.

    Of course there is always a possible compromise:

    http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=...1911-AUTO-ADJUSTABLE-EXTREME-DUTY-REAR-SIGHTS
     
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  6. Gonzilla

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    Fixed sights are excellent if you reload or plan on using only one load. When point of aim equals point of impact - Life is good and your done.

    If you practice w whatever's on sale or use different brands, loads etc., adj sights can be a Godsend.

    Quality adj sights usually cost $80-$140 and are made from a single piece of bar stock steel. Example - Champion which is also used by Les Baer. Bomar cut is approx $50 or more for machining.

    Adj sights will also improve the resale value of firearm.

    Note: sight pushers or the old mallet & brass punch will cost you more than $20.
     
  7. canebrake

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    Don't know about the Sig "target" guns but the Colt Gold Cup comes with two recoil springs. A low recoil spring for target loads and a standard recoil spring for standard load rounds.

    I would never use my target 1911 for PD or CCW. It's not designed to fire/load HP's and hot loads. It's designed specifically for 230gr ball ammo. I've never known a paper target that required a hot load hollow point to raise your score.

    If Sig is selling a gun with "target" in its model name and they tell you it's OK to shoot all types of ammo I've got a Peterbilt Corvette you may be interested in. :eek:
     
  8. mes227

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    No so much fragile as holster unfriendly. Harder to whip out, more likely to snag. I prefer target (adjustable sights) but most of my guns are for the range.
     
  9. rugerjazzkohai

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    I believe that adjustable sights are great for the range and if u r proficient with trigger pull. If u r not consistent with ur shooting adjustable sights mean nothing. If u r a novice keep it simple.
     
  10. Durangokid

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    You can and will get more use from a gun with Adj. sights. Everytime this comes up the experts fill the grave yards with snagged hand guns. Target pistols can be modifed for field use as well. I have an old Gold Cup that was worked over as a carry gun and it has been great. New loads and changing bullet weights makes the Adj. sights a bargain.:)
     
  11. HOSSFLY

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    If you gun shoots POA with the ammo you use in it theres is NO need for adj sights -
    Just my 2 bits :)
     
  12. Durangokid

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    You are right. However most shooters will want to change ammo from time to time. No gun will provide the same POI with every load. The modern handgun unlike handguns of the past is a much more complex shooting platform. The pressures, veloicitys and power of these weapons will wreck handguns of the past. The Colt SAA got by with fixed sights and 2 loads for years. Military handguns today can use open sights as they are issued one load. Civilian shooters want more from their modern handguns than one load.:)
     
  13. Tackleberry1

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    Of all the handguns I've owned only my S&W 629 came with adjustable sights and honestly...I've never needed them.

    Any quality handgun should hit POA/POI regardless of fixed vs adjustable sights. Perhaps I just don't experiment with enough different loads to make any difference but I've never found a need for adjustable sights on a handgun.

    I'd rather put the money toward good night sights for low light situations.

    TACK
     
  14. Gonzilla

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    I had a Capt. who said he could shoot any Army 45 into roughly one lg hole as long as he got to practice w it first. He was very good at Kentucky windage but the military eliminated all the old 45s for the P9. So I never got the chance to see it.

    Adj sights allow for variances in ammo, loads and tolerances. I've heard of the new fixed sights that use a set screw which must be fantastic but most require sight pushers ($120-$140) or worse, mallet & punch. Do this once or twice and you too will come to love adj sights.

    Pass up the $20 differences now, and it will cost you $$$ to correct later. Its the old, you can pay me now or later.. A better query w/b how to attach the adj sights Bomar, Kimber or high vs low profile etc.

    My HK is damn reliable and unbelieveablly consistent w 230 gr fodder of different manufacturers. But I got tired of aiming a bit this way or that to get the groups we are all looking for. Now I only have to make adj when I change ammo. - whatever's on sale philosophy.
     
  15. HOSSFLY

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    True, unless you drasticly (sp) change your handloads it wont change POI that much-
    Most factory loads are close enough :rolleyes:
    Besides, you go out a week or longer the next time you shoot you'll be asking yourself "now what load or factory brand did i have the sights set for last time"? :confused:
     
  16. getem2011

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    Thank you everyone for your thoughts. Still not sure what fits me best but feel free to add to the topic. So many 1911's I dunno what to get!!!!!
     
  17. gollygee

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    That's part of the fun of 1911s. You end up wanting them all! Met a guy on another forum that has over 200 1911s! I'll not live that long. :)