ACOG vs EOTech

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by NGIB, Apr 21, 2010.

  1. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    You don't find me in the rifle area much - mainly as I know spit about rifles. About a year ago I picked up a very nice Rock River AR carbine just to have one. When I asked my rifle buddies about optics - they all said ACOG. Since most of my rifle buddies are soldiers (that have used them in combat) I figured they knew their stuff so I found an ACOG at a good price.

    While I was in Hawaii (for my son's surgery) I picked up an EOTech 512.A65 for cheap and I was wondering how they compare. I'm not a long distance shooter and I use my AR (not often enough) for plinking at 100 yards or less. I've never even installed the EOTech so I'm just wondering about the merits of each as I'll probably sell one of them. So - which would y'all prefer for 100 yard (and less) plinking?
     

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  2. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    I recommend the EOTech for you, I want to buy your ACOG!!
     

  3. Dillinger

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    Does your ACOG co-witness with your front sight?

    Personally I run the EoTech and I love it. The heads up, both eyes open, full field of view style of shooting is perfect for me when I change targets or move and shoot ( which is NO WHERE near as often as I should practice so my sum total of experience level would be rated Less Than Zero :eek: ).

    I have only shot an ACOG twice. Both times it worked great and there is nothing wrong with it. I don't know about battery life.

    With the EoTech, I do change batteries fairly regularly, but it's my primary SHTF the weapon, so I keep it ready to go and changing batteries whether they work on not is part of my normal maintenance on it.

    Personally, I like that the glass on the EoTech can be compromised ( cracked, broken, covered in mud or blood ) and the reticle still works. That is a feature that I appreciate.

    I think it comes down to personal preference. If you like one, and can hit what you are aiming at, run with it.

    JD
     
  4. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    No batteries in an ACOG as it's a tritium gizmo (it's a TA01NSN model). As far as co-witness, I have no idea as the front sight isn't even visible. I shoot handguns probably 50 times more often than long guns so I'm actually thinking the EOTech may be better for the casual type of shooting I do. Actually, the only reason(s) I have an AR at all is a) I'm a man and a man should have one, and b) we all know the zombies will come someday.

    Just looking for opinions from folks that know a lot more than me about the subject...
     
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  5. Dillinger

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    That is something that I did not know. That is a big plus one for ACOG then, at least for the first dozen years.

    The Tritium stuff is great, until it fades and wears out. I would imagine that they can get you new inserts then instead of junking the whole unit? :confused:

    I like the EoTech because of the field of view, but it's for shooting man sized targets out to about 300 ( for me personally ). It's not for shooting dimes or trying to get the tightest possible group.

    When I pull that stick out, for real, I am going to be using it for large targets outside the wire. :cool:

    I'd sell that ACOG to Lon at a tidy sum, sell the EoTech on line and then get a brand new ACOG that is NV compatible. :D
     
  6. lonyaeger

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    A tidy sum for me or a tidy sum for Dave? That's the operative word here! :D
     
  7. NGIB

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    From what I understand, Trijicon will do it cheap when necessary. I think I agree with you JD as I will never be a long distance tiny group shooter. I'm not a hunter and the AR is a plinker and SHTF gun for me. Perhaps I'll sell it to Lon at a greatly inflated price and use the proceeds to feed my handguns...
     
  8. lonyaeger

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    Hey, I didn't just fall off the turnip truck, in spite of some of the crazy $hit I've done in here!

    If you decide to sell it, let me know the specs, type of reticle, and if you might have a mount included?
     
  9. NGIB

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    Lon, I don't know if I'll part with it yet but the model # is a TA01NSN, 4x32, yellow tritium reticle. It's sitting on the factory mount right now and that would come with it. This one has a few scratches on the outside as it has been in combat in the desert, the glass is perfect though...
     
  10. lonyaeger

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    Cool....if you decide to, no problem otherwise.
     
  11. moshpit

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    I'm fond of the Eotech for all the reasons Dillinger stated. I have the 512.A65 also and love the way it matches up to my iron sights now that I added the needed riser to put everything in line. The ACOG and the Eotech are for very different shooting styles.

    I'd prefer the ACOG for anything past 100 meters, and the Eotech for 100 meters or less.
     
  12. HOKIE_FAN

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    I run the eotech 516 with the (2) 123 batteries. The batteries are rated at 1100 hours. The eotech has an automatic 8 hour shut off. The 516 has a 7mm raised base which gives perfect lower 1/3 co-witness with fixed front sights. The acogs are awesome too, but I have found the sight picture is much smaller and (for me) slower target acquesition. The 516 will run you $450 and less...the acog is alot more! Probably can't go wron with either, just depends what you intend to use them for.
     
  13. pagj17

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    Isn't the Primary Illumination of the ACOG via the the Strip Of Fiber Optic on the top?
     
  14. M14sRock

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    Dave, for a general SHTF carbine either will do. But the fact that the Eo is not magnified will make it faster. Shoot with both eyes open and let the dot superimpose onto the target.

    Frankly, though, I'd sell both and buy the Aimpoint that JCA1 is selling. It is $425 shipped and includes a LaRue mount. The Ap is bombproof, and batteries last for years of constant use (65,000 hours is almost 7.5 years).

    Out to 300 yards a good red dot is plenty good, especially on a human sized target. If you want to stretch out to 600+ the ACOG is a better choice.
     
  15. doctherock

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    I'm going to be in the market for an AR soon. Told the wife since I have to work all day and then do school work till 9 or 10 at night then I am buying a couple more guns with some of the proceeds.
     
  16. KartoffelSalat

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    used an AGOC for 4 years in the corps, beautiful sight but probably WAAAAY overkill for your uses, 4x magnification makes co-witness rather difficult (ive never seen one successfully co-witnessed) so unless that ACOG is about 400 bucks (not bloody likely unless its not a trijicon in which case its just a knockoff) then you are PROBABLY better off with the EOtech.. but the ACOG's im familier with have a ballistic drop compensator retical which is REAL handy for ranges 400 yards and greater (my last year i qualified with an M16a4 and an ACOG, great results at the 500 yard line)
     
  17. pagj17

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    Doc.. I KINDA know the feeling. not married but I swear some of my friends think I am, to them.
    But what's work for if we can't have a little fun with it, right?
     
  18. mjkeat

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    As an owner of an EoTech XPS and an Aimpoint H1 and having used Aimpoints and Acogs in the military Id go with an Aimpoint H1 or Comp C3.

    I have no affiliation w/ Primary Arms but this is the cheapest price I have found. Aimpoint Comp C3 - 2MOA
     
  19. afi1

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    Don't take this the wrong way, but EOTechs suck. I saw too many of them die overseas, and on the range. Run Aimpoint if you want a fast 1x optic.
     
  20. colmustard

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    This is just me but if I had the money I would get the aim point m68. Built tough, and battery life is amazing. The 4 years I carried one on my m4 I changed the battery once, and that was when I first got the thing and thought I should change it just cause lol. It never failed me and it got beat up alot. just my 2 cents:rolleyes: