a little help....

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by emil, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. emil

    emil New Member

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    hi members of firearmstalk.

    im writing a report on rhetorics and gun control in the US, and i need an advise. i would just like to ask, why it is, in your opinion, important to own a gun. why do you need it? do you think crime rates are affected by the number of guns owned by citizens? do you own a weapon for self defense, hunting, target shooting, or something else?

    i sincerely hope that someone will take the time to answer these questions. i'm from Denmark, and we can barely own a knife, without getting the police breathing down our necks.

    have a nice day
    emil
     
  2. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

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    In America, we have a 2nd amendment. It's a God given fundamental right that people should be able to defend themselves from other people, and from tyranny.
    There were crimes committed in our founders days. Street gangs of orphaned youth plagued man from the Roman days to the streets of Philadelphia in our founders times. Our founding fathers were not immune to the effects of crime, but so eloquently stated, "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Our founding fathers knew that a time could come when people might have to reject tyranny, and fight back. They acknowledged this by putting the 2nd amendment in stone.

    Our founders probably never in their wildest dreams could have imagined Stalins gulags, or Hitlers death camps, but could you imagine, the Jews in 1930 Europe, blessed with the 2nd amendment, and the mindset to fight and die for it?! The war would have been quite different.
    Look at what a few thousand Jews in Warsaw managed! They held up the Germans for over a month, mainly with pistols they managed to smuggle.

    But it's not only a direct defense that arms provide, it's the constant reminder to our elected officials, and to our nations enemies, that there are 90 million of us, and we will not go quietly into the good night...
    For without a means to enforce and protect our freedom, all other rights become charity, merely blessed upon us by whomever is currently ruling.

    For some of us, firearm ownership is how we eat, it's how we defend ourselves and those we care for. It's the embodiment of freedom and rugged individualism that Americans define ourselves as... And as a foreigner, before you think 'Americans', ask yourself, 'What is an American?'

    We're the Jews who fled Soviet Russia, who fled Nazi occupied Europe.
    We're pioneers and frontiersmen who carved a life out of the wilderness. We're Africans, freed from the bonds of slavery and Africans who fled Africa and her genocidal campaigns. We're Christian's who fled religious persecution, and we're Muslims who did the same. We're atheists who hid in the shadows throughout history, afraid of the church. We're homosexuals, beaten and killed for our personal choices. We're native Americans, whose lands were stolen and our people exterminated, and we're Cubans who fled communist oppression under Castro.

    We are the people, and the descendants of the people the world wouldn't tolerate.

    We all live here, and butt heads quite often over deep, profound beliefs. But at the end of the day, we call ourselves Americans, and we all deeply understand the importance of being Armed, and the importance of relying on ourselves.

    Those are the people you will meet in America. And if you ever find yourself oppressed by whatever regime again has eyes on dominating Europe, you will be welcome to live here, and arm yourself, not only with weapons, but with the knowledge that you have a God given, natural right to defend yourself.
     
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  3. rurak

    rurak New Member

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    Sir, that deserves a standing ovation!!!!!!!! Nicely put.
     
  4. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

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    I tried to edit on my iPhone and think I messed it up. Did I just delete my post??
     
  5. rurak

    rurak New Member

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    No. Still there.
     
  6. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

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    Never mind, just the app messing up. :-D
     
  7. racer_x

    racer_x New Member

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    Well said Mosin
     
  8. magnumman

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  9. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

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    For the life of me, I can not understand the European mindset.
    Homo sapiens walked into Europe some 40,000 years ago, and slaughtered the Neanderthal. From then on, Europe has been brutalized, raped and burnt to the ground, by the Romans, ottomans, Turks, Muslims, English, Spanish, French, Nazis, the soviets, the Persians, the Greeks, etc... Finally culminating with the removal of the Berlin Wall in the 1980s.
    That's less than 30 years of peace out of 40,000 years, and the mindset is 'why would anyone want to own a gun?'
    Why is it the Swiss are the only ones to have figured it out?
     
  10. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Mosin, that was outstanding.
     
  11. JSStryker

    JSStryker New Member

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    Damn Mosin that brought a tear to my eye, This needs to be a sticky or maybe even part of a mission statement for this forum.
     
  12. magnumman

    magnumman New Member

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    +2 mosin, (one or each post).
     
  13. MCarter788

    MCarter788 New Member

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    I'm interested to hear Emil's response to this. Is there going to be one?
     
  14. primer1

    primer1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Holy lort! Mosin, you gave me goose bumps with that speech. That's better than any dribble ever published by the nra. Now, if we can just get that spoken nationally.
     
  15. Mosin

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    Thanks guys! It just kind of spilled out, and yes, it brought a tear to my eye, just writing it. It's how I've always felt. I need to edit it a tad when I get to a computer. It's hard on the iPhone.
     
  16. primer1

    primer1 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It depends if that response is the one emil wanted.
     
  17. Mosin

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    Just look up Simo Hayha. A Finnish sniper who picked off over 500 Russian soldiers when they tried to take Finland. Using an M28 Finnish version of the Mosin Nagant, he crippled the invading Russian forces.

    In the end, the Russians said they captured just enough of Finland to bury their dead...
     
  18. lbwar15

    lbwar15 New Member

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    I was going to right a reply to the OP. but after that there is no need.
     
  19. lbwar15

    lbwar15 New Member

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    I vote someone sends that to the NRA and try to get them to put it In next months American riflemen.
     
  20. Mosin

    Mosin Well-Known Member

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    Well let me edit it before you guys go start doing all that. :D