A gun for my girl

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by whistlindixie, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. whistlindixie

    whistlindixie New Member

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    So I've lurked for a few days and I've searched for my topic but haven't found exactly what I'm looking for. I think I've accepted that I need to buy a 22 (to my disappointment) as my 12 year old daughter's first rifle, my only problem is which one.
    1. I'm not convinced that she needs a youth model, she's almost as big as my wife and I think she may outgrow it too soon for me invest in a youth size.
    2.I would like single shot, but am not completely opposed to semi-auto. That being said, I think that a lever action may compromise her shooting position when cycling, and I'm not sure that a pump action wouldn't either, so i think I'm left with semi auto (10/22 :D ) or bolt action.
    3. I want a rifle with iron sites because I want her to develop good marksmanship skills and habits before I spoil her with a scope. But I also want it to be tapped for scope mounts. . . No need to pay a gunsmith anymore than necessary .
    4. A rifle that accepts all 22 rounds would be preferred. No one likes to have to hunt for specific ammo and I like to have a selection of prices. ;)
    5. My budget. My low end is 200 and high end is 500.
    She doesn't need to be match ready or anything, I just want to have some father daughter time and help her develop a skill that could prove useful in the future.
    Also, please give me ideas of questions I may need to ask at the sore, and things that I need to be aware of and gun buying tips in general.
    Let me know if any other info will be helpful.
    Thanks,
    Jonathan
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Darned good questions.

    It will be VERY hard to find a current day .22 Auto that will handle shorts and Long Rifle ammo. I have some older Remingtons that do so with style, but it takes a special design. Levr actions seem to do much better, but except for high dollar guns like the Browning BLR in 22, think your choices will be Henry or a Marlin 39A. Both are pricy, both are DAMNED good. I have a couple of the 39A, including my dad's.

    Bolt action- detachable magazine type will not handle shorts. Tube type magazine will. MOST .22 rifles made today are either drilled and tapped (in the case of the Marlin 39A) or have two paralell lines 3/8ths of an inch apart in the top of the reciever- that is for the scope mount to grab.

    Savage makes a very good hunting grade rifle, as does Marlin, Winchester, Browning, Mossberg, etc etc etc. For the money, take a look at a Savage 93. Bolt action, very accurate rifle. The Ruger 10-22 is an auto, I think there are more of them made than jellybeans. A LOT of shooters love them

    Go for a DECENT scope. Yes, you can buy cheapie. (Voice in distance- YOU'LL BE SORR-EEEEE!) Do not try the 100 power see the rings of Saturn monster- a decent 4 X, or a 3-9x variable, about a 40mm front lens.

    While in the gun shop, mosey over to the used racks- some good bargains lurking there.

    One note if you already know, excuse lecture please- .22 long rifle and .22 magnum (properly called .22 WMR) do NOT interchange. Different guns, different ammo.

    Enjoy the time w/ your daughter. The Anarchist-in-Training (granddaughter) is now 14, and has been my shooting partner for 4 years now. Be sure to get her some shooting glasses and her own ear muffs.

    Tips- either know the gun, or know the dealer. A good dealer takes care of his customers. Used rifles- always look at the crown (end) of the muzzle. A dinged up crown usually equals crappy accuracy.
     
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  3. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Good post c3. Sounds like a Marlin tube fed 22 bolt would be ideal. Just make sure you clean the chamber if you shoot shorts. You can single load shorts in the magazine fed rifles. I sometimes play with CB caps in the garage.
     
  4. gregs887

    gregs887 New Member

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    If you aren't dead set on being able to use multiple types of ammo, you can't go wrong with a 10/22. Flip up adjustable sights, lightweight and accurate right out of the box, easy to mount a scope to, and very affordable (I think mine was about $200 after all of the taxes and fees). Another thing about the 10/22 is with just about endless aftermarket support, your daughter gets a rifle that she can truly make her own. Let us know what you get her!
     
  5. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    Savage 22 bolt action, magazine fed, with accu-trigger. I've got one with decent iron sights, but you can also slip a scope on it. Seems to shoot any
    Long Rifle round I feed it acceptably well, with the accuracy of some being
    exceptional.

    Start her out without the magazine, single loading.

    Not an expensive gun---you will have enough left over for plenty of ammo.
    Pick up a few Butler Creek Steel Lip 25 rd 10-22 mags when you see them on sale---they will fit the tricked out purple-n-pink laminated stock 10-22
    she's going to want for her 13th birthday:)
     
  6. aandabooks

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    Why the disappointment over having to buy a .22 as a first gun? Were you thinking something in a larger caliber or would you have preferred a shotgun?
     
  7. USEBOTHHANDS

    USEBOTHHANDS New Member

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    ya know......when i was that age, i had an awesome .177 caliber BB/pellet rifle (with iron sights). i shot EVERYTHING with it, and i do mean EVERYTHING. BB's (as well as pellets) were cheap, but BB's could be loaded a couple hundred @ a time, and when you ran out, it was easy to come up with a dollar or two and get more.

    they're easy to use, FUN, FUN, FUN to shoot, and a great starter "gun" @ that.

    if you're not TOO disappointed in that kind of purchase, get both of you one, and put the rest of the money back for a 10/22 for next year. i'm 35 and still own a Daisy Red Rider BB gun, i love to burn up a tube of BBs.:D

    PLUS, you can shoot it @ ANY TIME, AND JUST ABOUT ANYWHERE (city limits - in your "fenced" backyard).
     
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  8. rifleman55

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    Savage makes a single shot 22 with real dopter target shooting style sights. It would be the ideal first rifle.
    A scope can be put on it later, but if she would really like to learn markmanship, perhaps to compete someday, it would be the ideal rifle.

    Otherwise, I'd go with the basic bolt action, heavy barrel rifle that Savage makes.
    It's very accurate with the right ammo, so she won't get upset because she cannot shoot small groups. You can get a 10 round mag for it.
    A semi auto makes it too easy to just fire shots. A bolt action slows you down a little more and makes you want to make each shot count.

    Savage has become the rifle that is the one to try and beat, with Marlin a little behind. Fantastic value, good price. Do get the Accu trigger model, not the one with the regular trigger at Wally world.

    That's the way I would go were I you.

    John K
     
  9. whistlindixie

    whistlindixie New Member

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    Well, I am worried she'll get bored with a 22, so I was thinking I'd get her something she could grow into to, but not to worry, I have a 30.06 and a shotgun so there's something for everyone and maybe I'll get something in between too; my wife is bugging me for a pink AR 15. :eek:
     
  10. whistlindixie

    whistlindixie New Member

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    Everyone thank you so much for info. If there's anything else you think I need to consider, please, don't be shy. C3, thank you in particular, i was not aware of any difference in the 22 fam concerning magnums. . . Negotiations with the wife are ongoing, but I'm angling for 2 guns. :p
     
  11. DrumJunkie

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    I'm 48 and am still not bored with 22's :D In fact it's my fav non training guns to shoot. Two pistols and four rifles and I want more.
     
  12. 007BondJamesBond007

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    You will never be bored with a 22. I got a lot of different types of firearms but always end up plinking away with the 22. Now a real good 22 at the low end is the Marlin 795. I picked mine up for $150 with Bushnel scope. Now don't be to hard on the lever action the Henry is real smooth and will handle all 22 exept 22 mag. It will be a gun she will pass down to her kids. The Golden Boy is not set up for a scope you have to get a kit from Henry to mount one. The other model is easer to mount one. Both Henry's are in you price range. The lever action is as easy to cycle as as a bolt maybe easier. With the bolt I have to move my face to clear the bolt. With the lever I can still keep my eye on the sights.
     
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  13. aandabooks

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    The beauty of the .22 is that the ammo is cheap and plentiful. You can shoot for several hours for next to nothing. Can't do that with any of the larger calibers or a shotgun. I have a 10 year old boy and he can't get enough of shooting with the assortment of .22s that we have.
     
  14. mach1337

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    I would have to agree with what others have said here. I got a BB gun when i was 5 and then my first .22 when i was 10 still have it. its a semi-auto tube fed cant remember if its a marlin browning or remington. but still i want my dad's nylon 66. i dont know why but i could shoot better with that 66 then i could with my scoped .22.

    always wanted a Henry pump tho...
     
  15. Fisherking

    Fisherking New Member

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    I would go with the savage . I picked up a savage used with the heavy barrel and acutrigger here in Canada for $200 and it shoots great.
    So +1 on the savage.
    F.K.
     
  16. BlackWidow

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    I think the Henry lever-action is a great idea. It shoots .22 short, .22 long, and .22 long rifle and the lever is smooth as silk. You can get the Youth model and then add a regular sized stock later for $30 or so when she's bigger. These are quality rifles at a great price and the company CEO Anthony Imperato will personally make sure you are happy. Also, they have a lifetime warranty - not for the life of the owner, FOR THE LIFE OF THE RIFLE! You could be the 10th owner and still send it back for free repair or replacement. Awesome.
     
  17. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    After helping my brother-in-law pick out a .22 rifle for my 12 year old nephew, we bought an S&W AR 15-22 semi-auto. I can say with all confidence that I would highly recommend a bolt-action to a new shooter that age. I'm just not confident in the maturity of kids that age for a rifle that auto-loads. I was the one who shot with him most of the time. He was getting better, but still made me nervous.

    If you find a Savage, get it.
     
  18. whistlindixie

    whistlindixie New Member

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    Does cycling a lever action mess with your shooting postion? I think about the way I shoot, especially in the prone, and I just envision my self rolling half way over to cock it. . .
     
  19. whistlindixie

    whistlindixie New Member

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    Henry Repeating Arms | Fine Rifles Made in America and Priced Right

    Got to play with one of these today. I absolutely loved the sights on it. A little worried about the fact that they're fixed and I can't adjust for windage. I get to take my daughter to the range sometime next week. The guy at the range said to let him know when we're coming in and he'll bring his back in. I am so stoked. :D
     
  20. remington7mm

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    i have seen a pink ar15, im going to say it pretty cool and its deffinatly different!