A great deal on a discontinued scope

Discussion in 'Optics & Mounts' started by Txhillbilly, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    A great deal on a discontinued scope-Updated w/pics

    I've been wanting to put some new glass on my Savage 12 - 223 and my RRA Varminter AR15 - 223 for a while,but didn't want to break the bank doing it.
    I love Sightron SIII scopes,but coughing up that much for a scope for my 223's isn't what I wanted to do.
    When I bought my 458 SOCOM upper,I found a great deal on Weaver Super Slam's,so I bought one.A 3-15x50 with a duplex reticle,I wanted to get a 4-20x50 for one of the 223's but they weren't in stock.When they received more in,the price went up $200,so I turned it down.The Super Slam is a great scope,with excellent glass,and has some neat features not found on other scopes.

    I found another deal on Weaver Classic Extreme scopes at Natchez Shooting Supply.
    http://www.natchezss.com/product.cf...ail&brand=WE&prodID=WE800709&prodTitle=Weaver 6-24x50 Classic Extreme Riflescope Illuminated German#4 Reticle Matte

    The Classic Extreme was replaced by the Super Slam,and although the Extreme doesn't have all the features of the Super Slam,it does have the same great lenses & clarity,side focus,fast free setting Zero turrets,quick focus eye piece,30mm main-tube,illuminated reticle,and great eye relief-4" and Weaver's Lifetime warranty.

    This scope retailed for $779.99 when it first came out,and they are on sale for $349.99

    I received it late today,and took it out of the box to check it out.It's a good looking scope,but a little on the heavy side at 1.9lbs.The turrets are covered with caps,and when removed the turrets turned firmly,and had nice audible clicks.You can pull up on the turrets,and they free wheel to set zero,and then push them down to lock zero and adjust the turrets.This scope has 1/8" clicks-I prefer 1/4" clicks,but for varmint hunting and target duty this will work fine.
    I got the German #4 reticle with this scope,the only other option was the Duplex reticle.I prefer the #4 over the Duplex.

    http://www.natchezss.com/images/products/WE800709.jpg

    With the sun going down I looked around at different ranges,and at different area's lighted/shaded.The glass in this scope is impressive,very clear and bright at all magnifications.It seemed a little hazy above 20x looking out at about 400yds,but we did just get a couple inches of rain,and the sun warmed things up today,so it could just have been moisture in the air.
    I think this is going to be a great scope for the 223's.I can't find the specs on this scope,but I think it has around 60 moa of adjustment.I'll have to check it out,and know for sure.

    What I don't like about it-
    The way the magnification knob is marked.I shoot left handed,and the marks are on the left side of the tube,so I can't see what I have it set at unless I look around the other side of the scope.
    And the knob for the Illuminated reticle only turns one way,so if you want it on the brightest setting you have to crank it all the way around.

    Neither of these are major problems,just stuff I dislike.

    I'm waiting for my rings to arrive,then I'll get it mounted and do some real testing with it.
    Pictures will have to wait til then.

    If your wanting a good quality scope,with some nice glass in it for a decent price,you might want to get one of these scopes before they're sold out.
    Natchez has several magnification choices to choose from with these scopes.
    There are some on ebay,and they're selling for quite a bit more $$$ there.
     
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  2. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    58 views and no responses.Guess you guy's don't like the scope. Oh well!
    The UPS truck brought me my rings today,so I mounted the Weaver Classic Extreme on my Savage 12FLVSS 223.

    The tree line in the pix are right at 300 yds away,and the cows are about 250-275yds away.The first 3 pixs are at 6x,and the last is on 10x.
    Yes,the reticle isn't level in the pix's,I was trying to get it together before the sun went down.It's level now!

    I think this is a very good deal,on a nice quality scope.The optical clarity is as good as my Sightron SIII's.

    I tried to take some pix's of the Illuminated reticle,but they aren't very good.

    http://s999.photobucket.com/albums/af113/1Txhillbilly/Weaver Classic Extreme 6-24x50/
     

  3. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    Oh i saw your post last night but didnt have time to reply. I love ANY weaver scope. I have several includen a 40/44, 2 grandslams and a superslam. I love em all

    God didnt make all men equal colonel Sam Colt did
     
  4. canebrake

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    Very nice glass Tx.

    Now where can I find tree-fiddy?

    I'm going to work on this!
     
  5. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    You could sell me your Star to get the money Cane;) just kiddin since if you did that id have to re-evaluate my opinion on you.

    God didnt make all men equal colonel Sam Colt did
     
  6. ZeusEcho

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    Hey Tx thanks for the heads up on this scope! I'm really considering this over the Monarch especially for $100 savings over the Nikon.

    What features does the Super Slam have that the Classic Extreme does not?
     
  7. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    The Super Slam Turrets are different.They are exposed Tactical style turrets,and they pull up to adjust,and push back down to lock in place.
    They have 1" main tubes and are w/o the Illuminated reticle,or you can get the Euro model with a 30mm tube and it has the Illuminated reticle.
    They also have the Super Slam Tactical scopes that feature First Focal Plane reticles,but they are pricey,and you can get better FFP scopes for what Weaver's asking for theirs.

    Turrets on the Super Slam-
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    The top of the Turret unscrews,and then you can lift the center piece off and set it to zero once you have it dialed in.-
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    It's also a more compact scope,and has a 5X magnification range.The one I have is 3-15x.
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  8. dog2000tj

    dog2000tj New Member

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    Sweet scope Tx and for $350 that's a hell of a good price. Hmmmm. maybe mugging a few unsuspecting ATM'ers is in order :cool:


    (green color added to indicate sarcasm - I hope it's green .. I'm color blind :( )
     
  9. ZeusEcho

    ZeusEcho Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Thanks for the info man. Those turrets/scope/rifle look great!
     
  10. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    Well,I got all my running around finished today,and was able to shoot the Savage 12 and dial in the Weaver Classic Extreme scope.

    I setup my shooting bench here at the house at 100 yards from my target.I was shooting some Hornady 60gr VMax loaded with H335 powder,this load shoots really good out of this rifle,and is a varmints nightmare.
    The first shot was about 3" to the right and a 1/2" low.I adjusted the scope left 24 clicks (it's a 1/8" turret),and fired a 2nd shot.It was 1/4" to the right and still 1/2" low,at least the clicks are good to go with this scope.
    I adjusted 2 more clicks to the left,and 5 clicks up,and shot a 5 shot group. .339" center to center-Not too shabby!

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    I then shot 3 more 5 shot groups,and the last group was the best.I took my time on it.

    2nd group-

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    3rd group (left)-4th group on the right. I'm liking the clarity of this scope,and it has all kinds of eye relief.All of the adjustments are true.what more could you ask for in a scope for this kinda price. I think I might have to buy another one for my RRA Varminter 223.

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  11. ZeusEcho

    ZeusEcho Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Nice shoting Tx!

    I just order the same scope in dual x. I'm stoked!

    Thanks for the heads up on that sale! ;)
     
  12. ddmpi

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    Thanks for all the great info. Just ordered one from Natchez for $349.00 plus shipping, Can't wait to get and mount it on my new Xmas present AR-10TBNF RIFLE 7.62 ALUM FLOATED HANDGUARD, 20" SST BBL, BLACK.
     
  13. huffmanite

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    Several of the gents I shoot with at range we're members purchased a Weaver Classis Extreme from Natchez shortly after they introduced them with their discounted prices.

    All three are fairly happy with them and mind you, they are pretty picky when it comes to scopes. One of them did have a problem out of the box with his Extreme, but it was quickly replaced with a new one. Replacement scope works fine. Actually, only gripe about the Extreme was its eye relief being too long. Couple of its owners had to mount the scope as far forward as it could go in the rings to use it.
     
  14. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    They do have very long eye relief,but it's not too long if you use a 1pc Weaver style rail mount. I can see where someone could have problems if mounting in a 2pc mount set-up.
    These scopes have very good optics in them,and I have enjoyed both of the 6-24x50 scopes I purchased.
    People that look thru them at the range are always surprised at the clarity of the glass. They track well,and always keep zero.I'm pretty hard on turning turrets shooting at different ranges often,and they have always been dead on when returned to my zero.
    I'm used to paying a lot more for good glass,and was glad to find these scopes were up to the quality that I'm used to using on my rifles.
     
  15. Khromo

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    Thanks a lot for the heads up and the info, Mr. Tex!

    I just ordered a 1.5-4.5, and an 8-32. They both offer advantages over the Leupold VX-2 and Weaver T-series I was considering to cover those magnification ranges.

    If you were local, I would buy you a glass of fine Irish whiskey. Unfortunately, you are too far away, so I can't do that. But take heart, I will buy the Irish anyway, and toast you while I drink it myself!

    Thanks for the detail, as I find it very useful.
     
  16. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    Your welcome,But I'll pass on the Irish whiskey.Just never cared for the taste of it. I will do a big shot of Wild Turkey for you though!
     
  17. mr70ss

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    Nice write up, i got a 8-32x50 on the way for my savage 12bvss in 22-250. Looks like they preform real well, Thanks for the review! One question, has anyone found a sunshade that fits?
     
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  18. gunnut07

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    That's a good deal on a quality scope.
     
  19. mr70ss

    mr70ss New Member

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    Got my scope in today, and I'm happy with it thus far. I hope to get out and in the next couple of weeks and see how it prefroms. Until then here are some pics...


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