A good starter 9mm

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by cghamm117, Apr 2, 2012.

  1. cghamm117

    cghamm117 New Member

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    Hey everyone, Im looking to buy a new handgun. I would like to keep it in the range of about 600 little more little less. It would be my first centerfire handgun, I am looking to be a police officer someday in school now. And I have been looking thinking about going to the ranges to test some out. But i was looking for some suggestions on what I could start off with I have done some research and Obviously glock, xdm, but i have shot a xdm and many other handguns before (never shot a glock), and it seems that I like the style of a 1911 better just have been more accurate with my cousins colt 1911 over his xdm .40. So i looked into that style without going into 1911 price, found that tarus makes what is said to be a fairly good replica of Beretta 92. I live in Illinois unfortunately so ya know the one state without concealed carry so I would like to have a full sized gun, and possibly something that would get me through the academy. I do not want to completely rule out the xdm or the glock but just looking for some good opinions thanks
     
  2. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Not knowing what precinct you are going to upon graduation, make selection kind of tough.

    Those you have mentioned are pretty good for all around firearms.

    Are you required to supply your own firearm while you attend the academy? If so, then you may want to consider the Glock. It has been in more police departments than Taurus.
     

  3. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    Check out the full size S&W M&P, they are great pistols. Plus LE can carry in their off duty times I believe.
     
  4. wjnfirearms

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    You may want to rethink your caliber choice if you are gearing for LE. Agencies primarily use .40 these days with some using .45 and others, the newer .45 GAP. If you are looking just to gain firearm proficiency, then 9mm would be ok to use. 9mm fell out of favor with law enforcement several years ago on a wide basis in the US.

    The choices for a full size semis are pretty good. The Glock is always a good choice and one of the favorites of LE. The M&P has found growing favor and is the choice of some agencies. The Beretta 92/96 series has long been a gun of choice, but the amount of agencies using them has shrunk somewhat in favor of Glock and S&W. I, myself, came into posession of a Beretta 96D Brigadier in .40 which was a decommsioned Pennsylvania State Police weapon when they switched to the Glock in .45 GAP not long ago. What a fine shooting weapon this is. My youngest son also has one which was an older issue but was purchased in stainless. Both have official markings.

    I'd go and check out the offerings mentioned and see which feels right for you. Shop price as being a dealer, I can say for certain that prices vary between dealers, sometimes by a significant amount. Don't just buy the first one you see, unless you know for fact that it's a "can't pass this up" deal. There's absolutely no reason to impulse buy and throw good money away. Still, don't be real surprised if inventory generally is a bit off now. The pre-election panic buying has begun in earnest.

    How agencies have officers obtain duty weapons vary from department to department. Some still issue their choice of pistol. Some give you a stipend and you go out and buy it, often at a designated supplier that gives preferred pricing. For example, some agencies in the Pittsburgh area use one particular LE supply store that is a Glock factory dealer. The price for a Glock 23 is $398 currently for credentialed officers. Some agencies allow a mix of weapons. I believe the LAPD still allows both Glock and Beretta at the discretion of the individual. You have to do yearly qualification on the range everywhere with the gun you carry on duty.

    And, gunny, most agencies require their officers to be armed off duty. You are never really off duty. Just off of the clock.
     
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  5. Quentin

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    For you I agree with the recommendations above on Glock and the 40S&W. And the G22 is the most widely used LEO pistol for open carry. Try to handle and shoot one but I bet you'll like it. Even if you don't at first you should become familiar with the Glock considering your plans for a profession. Think about buying a LEO trade-in G22 for around $350. These often have night sights but be sure the NS still has some life in them. Otherwise they are checked out by Glock and good as new except for holster wear, etc. They won't be the latest generation, most I've seen are Gen 2 and some are Gen 3 but that's not a real issue at the price.

    I'd say this is almost a no-brainer for your first gun since down the road if your agency mandates a different pistol you should be able to get your money back selling the G22. Buying used, the depreciation is already subtracted so very little loss of value if you sell it.

    Also you can buy a Lone Wolf 40-9mm conversion barrel for about $100 and some 9mm magazines and have both calibers in one gun. This will keep down your practice cost and let you compare the calibers. Odds are you'd keep this gun even if you don't use it on duty.

    The 1911 and others you mentioned are fine guns but you might as well go with what you're most likely to encounter later on.
     
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  6. john2005

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    Ya I just got a s&w mp40 and love it especially the trigger. It was my first semi-auto pistol and don't regret it one bit
     
  7. cghamm117

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    I will look into all of these thank you for the input. I do realize that most are carrying the .40 and will im sure carry that on the job. I was just actually trying to get a bit more effective with a cheaper round. Then either use the issued gun depending on where I go or buy a .40 because I would want maximum stoppin power at that time.
     
  8. JTJ

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  9. Westy

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    I'd stick to the 9mm. You can almost afford to shoot it if you keep your eye on the ammo sales an find 50 rounds for around $10.00.

    The RugerP95 is dirt cheap and super reliable. The SR9's are coming down too. You can't beat a Beretta 92 for a decent reliable shooter either, but it's usually to large for most to carry.

    The Glocks are good too. I'm not a Glock guy (never had one-never will) but there's a ton of them out there and guys love them.
     
  10. cghamm117

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    I was going to actually ask also what would be the best size i do not want a compact, but a 4.25 inch barrel will it give me the accuracy and future ability to conceal if i went with the m&p (leaning toward it). Obviously it has a lot to do with shooter, but I wondered what would be the best size.
     
  11. Quentin

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    Well you said you wanted a full size gun because you can't CCW but honestly a compact is handier for most people even for open carry. My Glock 23 is my favorite open carry gun now and my Glock 27 subcompact for CCW.

    A compact is very close to the size of a full size, you usually lose two rounds and about 1/2" of barrel, not that much really. It's so much handier. The subcompacts are the small versions.
     
  12. sweeper22

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    Based on this portion of your post, I have one clear suggestion: CZ 75b. Might also be worth looking into various extensions of the CZ 75 family. They're just plain great guns, and run about $500-650 new for various models. Their model 75 design is a lot like a double-stack 9mm 1911. So is the Browning Hi-Power, but the CZ is equal quality for about $300 less in my opinion (I have a 1911, BHP, and CZ 75).

    The other good metal 9mm option would be a Sig P226, P228, P229, or P239. All can be found in excellent (used) condition for $500-600.


    If you want polymer, I can't say anything bad about Glock, Springfield, S&W, Ruger, FN, CZ, Walther, etc. They're all good guns...just a case of personal preference. I'd steer clear of Taurus polymers. Some are fine, some are outstanding even...but far too many aren't. Conversly, the metal-framed Beretta 92 clone does seem to have a decent track record.
     
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  13. cghamm117

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    Well thanks again too all who have commented. I think im just going to be at a stand still until I get to a shop and handle all of these and see which i like best in my hand.
     
  14. 13andloveguns

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    If you want a good 9mm i would suggest the steyr m9-a1 i have had good luck with one its a fairly accurate gun with the cool triangle back sight and quick to aimdown sights with a comftorable grip that is firm
     
  15. rpritchard0001

    rpritchard0001 New Member

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    Walther PPQ, fantastic weapon!
     
  16. TX45

    TX45 New Member

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    I suggest you try out the Ruger SR9 & SR9c at the local range. I have both and love them.
     
  17. truevil1313

    truevil1313 New Member

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    Here is my $.02
    I would look at the Sig Sauer SP2022. It is offered in both 9 and 40. Very nice gun with a great trigger. New they run $400-450.
    I own both and could not be more pleased.
     
  18. john2005

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    I have heard bad things about the Sr but you can't always believe what you hear. So I might have to go to our local range and try one out
     
  19. ALuckyWife

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    I have the SR9c and love it. My husband as the SR40 and also loves it and we have never have had a problem.
     
  20. Polygon

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    My pick would have to be the Ruger P95. It's a good, inexpensive gun. I'm going to be buying one for plinking pretty soon.