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looking for a good semi auto shotgun mainly for recreation and home defense i kinda like the mossberg 935 magnum 12 guage autoloader
 

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I have the FN Herstal Self Loading Police Shotgun in .12ga. Pictures in my gallery. I love this gun, it works with whatever I feed it and doesn't punish on recoil. Very nice and well put together.

Winchester was debuting their new Super X3 at SHOT in Feb - this monster is the fastest self loading shotgun in the world at the moment ( mathematically estimated at 457 rounds per minute ), but at what a price. :eek:

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benelli m3 the best of both worlds eer auto or pump you decide this is thee absolutely fastest shotgun in the world and it is one bad a** mf :cool: :cool: :eek: :eek:
 

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benelli m3 the best of both worlds eer auto or pump you decide this is thee absolutely fastest shotgun in the world and it is one bad a** mf :cool: :cool: :eek: :eek:
While I would agree that the M3 is a nice weapon, and it WAS the world's fastest firing, that title has been taken by the folks at Winchester with the advent of their Super X3 platform. Winchester has had the title for at least one year, and I suspect, two since the X3 platform was out in '06.

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The Bennelli does not work well with light field loads. It is recoil operated and more punishing than a gas operated gun.

The Remington 11-87 is a superb shotgun with a self adjusting/regulating gas system that works with a wide variety of ammo.

I have a Saiga that is reliable to the extreme, feeds and fires ANYTHING. Very fast shooting. See pics saiga.jpg
 

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I used to have a Saiga 7.62x39 and foolishly sold it. I forgot they make a 12 guauge along with several other rifle rounds. I didn't realize they made a high cap magazine for the 12 guauge. How many rounds does it hold and where did you find that mag? I just might be in the market for a new Saiga.
 

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Mag capacity is 10 rounds. It holds and feeds 2 3/4 or 3" rounds with equal reliability. Synthetic body w/steel feed lips just lke the Ruskie mags. US made. AGP out of Arizona. http://www.agparms.com/
 

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457 rounds per minute is a .13 second split. Lots of shotguns will do .13's
Benelli M1S90, Remington 1100, Winchester SX2, even the old Browning A5.

When you get down around .11 things start going sideways. Patrick Kelley
did an article in Front Sight magazine in 2007? on the various platforms.
I'll see if I can dig it out later. Fastest at that time? Winchester SX2.
 

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I've had good luck with this Bennelli so far..............


No issues to date, and I've had it since 1993. Picked it up at a gunshow (used but in great shape)

I dont shoot alot of light loads thru it however, but the few boxes I have put thru it all cycled well.


robocop10mm : That Saiga looks sweet.;) Thanks for sharing the pic.
 

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I think that everyone has had good luck with what they have at present. I personally shoot Remington 11-87 and love it dearly. The best thing to do is buy the gun that feels the best and drops to your line of sight the best. It is very hard for someone else to tell you what to buy, when each person is different.
 

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I bought a remington 1100 tac-2, because everyone was out of stock on the saiga-12 (and I was impatient). Now, one of my firearms dealers has the saiga back in, and I'm tempted to buy it as well. I say tempted, because it is a very tempting firearm, but it would mean I's have to give up my plans on a cetme or a 191a4 kit (neither of which I want to give up).

Anyway, I think you'll find equal lovers of the remingtons (1100's and 1187's), the benelli's, and the saiga's. They are each different from each other, but have more than enough followers/owners to know you're getting a good weapon.
 

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The Bennelli does not work well with light field loads. It is recoil operated and more punishing than a gas operated gun.
As an experiment, I once fired several boxes of light field loads through both of my Benelli's, and didn't experience any malfunctions of any type.

However, even if your statement was correct, I'm curious as to why anybody would want to use light field loads in a defensive shotgun anyway. Everybody I know of that owns an M1, M2, M3 or M4---doesn't fire anything less than #4 buck, which cycles superbly in all of them.

Also, I'm not a very large individual, and I've never found the recoil of my Benelli's to be "punishing" at all. With some practice, it's not too difficult to fire eight rounds from a Benelli before the first empty cartridge hits the ground. It's highly improbable that one would be able to do that with a shotgun that had "punishing" recoil. ;)
 

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looking for a good semi auto shotgun mainly for recreation and home defense i kinda like the mossberg 935 magnum 12 guage autoloader

I believe you mean Mossberg 930. The 935 has a 3.5" chamber and will only cycle 3" 3.5' shells reliably. The 930 has a 3" chamber. Take a look at the 930 SPX if you can find one.


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I've got one of the Practical SX2 that take 3inch shells. It will eat anything. Great shotgun. I would highly recommend it. I'm making head shots on an IDPA target with slugs at 45-50 yards.
 

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While I would agree that the M3 is a nice weapon, and it WAS the world's fastest firing, that title has been taken by the folks at Winchester with the advent of their Super X3 platform. Winchester has had the title for at least one year, and I suspect, two since the X3 platform was out in '06.
I checked Winchester's 2008 catalog, and I don't believe they offer a Super X3 in a tactical model.

They're all hunting shotguns.

So I believe it's safe and accurate to say that Benelli still makes the fastest cycling tactical shotgun on the market.

Pat Flanigan's 12 rounds in 1.442 seconds with his Super X3 was indeed impressive. But please remember that he was using very light target loads, in a hunting shotgun with a barrel considerably longer than what you would find on a tactical shotgun.

If Flanigan shot 00 buck "full house" defensive loads from an X3 with a 18" barrel, he wouldn't be nearly as fast.
 

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The Remington 11-87 Police Special with the extended mag is kind'a big (to me - I'm used to pumps) but it is a great gun.

You can probably find one used in good condition to save a few bucks.

Those Saigas are certainly tempting............
 
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