A Good Scope for a Remi 700 VTR 308

Discussion in 'Optics & Mounts' started by XxChino13xX, Aug 18, 2011.

  1. XxChino13xX

    XxChino13xX New Member

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    I intend to use it for target shooting only and the range I goto only goes up to 100yds. The scope I've been eyeballing is the Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 (i've found it for $399), due to it's "shockproof" design. I've already gone through three scopes, two Leapers and one Nikon Pro-Staff 3-9x40. I've been told to go with a Nikon Monarch and I've also been guided towards the Millet TRS-1 and Nightforce. I'm not looking to go overboard and spend an arm and a leg plus my first born. Anybody have any feedback on the Zeiss?? Good or bad, doesn't matter to me, I'm just looking for honest opinions and hopefully first hand experience.

    Like I said it's only for target shooting up to 100yds, it's a .308 Remington 700 VTR (no iron sights, just taps), not looking to break the bank money wise, i'm still saving for a wedding, and i'd like a variable power scope.

    Thanks for any and all help and information on the scope.
     
  2. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Active Member

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    Zeiss, Burris, Redfield or Leupold are all good products at their price points. The only one I don't own is a Zeiss.
     

  3. Wambli

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    If you broke your Nikon I can tell you that is unusual and by the way they come with a lifetime warantee. Send it to Nikon and they will make it right. A .308 does not have the recoil to be destrying good scopes. The Zeiss is a good scope for hunting and it will do for target work but if you are really only wanting to punch targets then a scope with a slightly higher magnification and a thin reticle will allow you to do more precisse shooting. I would look at something in the 14x for top power and a thin varmint or target dot (1/4 moa) reticle in the Nikon Monarch, Leupold VxII or III, Bushnell Elite, Millet and Sightron amongst others.
     
  4. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger Active Member

    Nightforce is WAY over the range of the other brands you mentioned. You're talking about probably at least $1500 for entry level Nightforce.
     
  5. stalkingbear

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    Check out the 4x-16x Nikon Monarch for your rifle and send the Prostaff back to the factory. This is the 1st time I've heard about a Nikon breaking with such a mild kicking rifle. It's rare, very rare.
     
  6. Poink88

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    Also check Weaver Grand Slam.
     
  7. Maxwell1

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    Scope for .308

    Whatever you're thinking of buying, be sure to buy it BEFORE your wedding. It gets a lot harder afterward.
     
  8. XxChino13xX

    XxChino13xX New Member

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    I knew that Nikon had the lifetime warranty but when I called them to have something done about it they just offered to pay back the money, didn't even mention replacing the scope for me. I thought it was odd that a Nikon broke also, but it just wouldn't focus anymore no matter the distance a clear picture wouldn't come through.

    Thanks everyone for the feedback about the scopes, I have this thread bookmarked so I can come back and compare brands, quality and prices most importantly. When the time comes and I'm able to afford a new scope I'll take new pics and give some feedback on thoughts on the scope.
     
  9. TCH2FLY

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    I wouldn't hesitate to tell you to get another Nikon over Millet or Leapers. NF is great but way overkill (and $$$) for 100 yd shooting
    What do you mean by "won't focus anymore"? That scope has no "focus" except the eyepiece and that is simply to sharpen the reticle image, once that is set you don't need to mess with it and it won't (shouldn't) change the image clarity. If you had to use the zoom to get a clear picture that scope was bad from the start.
     
  10. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger Active Member

    Not exactly true. Many scopes have a focus adjustment feature such as side focus or objective focus to help with parallax.
     
  11. TCH2FLY

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    I was speakin to his Nikon pro-staff 3-9x40, it is exactly true that particular scope does not have any "focus" features other than the eyepiece (ocular).

    A parallax adjustment is just that, a way to eliminate any parallax error. When you correct for parallax it does sharpen the image but it would be wrong to say you focus to eliminate the parallax error. Parallax error occurs when the image focal plane is not coincident with the reticle focal plane and yes that can mean it is out of focus. Yes, when you correct for parallax error, the image will be in focus BUT you can have an image in focus and still have the potential for parallax error.
     
  12. XxChino13xX

    XxChino13xX New Member

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    It was the ocular focus that would no longer work, at any distance it was a blurry FOV. No matter what way I would rotate the eyepiece the picture quality wouldn't improve. That's what I meant by it wouldn't focus, sorry for any misunderstandings.

    It was a great scope while it worked without a doubt, but after about a year of wear and tear and recoil it just went belly up. I have no qualms about Nikon at all, I'd go back to them in a heartbeat, I just can't find a reasonably priced Monarch. A buddy of mine has the same rifle and he has it mounted with a Monarch and loves it. I'm just leaning more towards the Zeiss because it says it's shockproof and I know the name Zeiss from camera lenses, and they make excellent lenses. But I have to still look into all the ones y'all listed off too, can't count anything out.
     
  13. TCH2FLY

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    The ocular adjustment will NOT change the image quality, that is not its purpose. The ocular adjustment is ONLY to allow you to focus the reticle to your eye so it is sharp and clear. The FOV will not change regardless how how far in or out the ocular is adjusted.
    That scope has no adjustments that will change a fuzzy FOV, the lens are (or should be) fixed. If you have been using the ocular to clear the FOV since it was new then something was wrong with it at that time and the rifle did not cause the problem.

    Zeiss has a good rep but I haven't found one any cheaper than a Nikon. I also don't think it is any more "shockproof" than a Nikon, regardless of marketing hype.
     
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