A first 9x19mm target shooting pistol?

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by ShootingForFun, Nov 12, 2013.

  1. ShootingForFun

    ShootingForFun New Member

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    I am looking for a good 9mm pistol for target shooting only.

    A little about my experience: I've been shooting handguns for one and a half year on a weekly basis in a target shooting club, and I think I'm relatively good at it. I've mainly been shooting .22 caliber High Standard pistols, but occasionally I'm shooting Sig P210 "Neuhausen" 9mm. I have tried Sig Sauer P220 9mm and SW 686 revolver with .38 special and .357 magnum cartridges. I shoot with one hand only. I practice at home with a .177 caliber Weihrauch HW40 air pistol. I recently bought an old .22 caliber Walther GSP, the first "real" gun I own, and I'm very happy with it. I think the P210 is a difficult gun mainly due to it's hard millitary style trigger (I do not like hard millitary style triggers).

    Based on my experience and what I've seen in the club, I think my first 9mm should fulfill the following requirements:

    - Single action trigger with user adjustable weight.
    - Adjustable rear sight.
    - Multiple grip plates available.
    - Good for 25 yard precision and terrain shooting.
    - Very, very reliable.
    - Very accurate.
    - Very good craftmanship and finish.
    - Feels good when fired.
    - Should fit a relatively large hand.
    - Good for shooting with one hand.
    - Not a "hammer biter" like the P210.
    - Well known to most gun smiths.
    - Can keep me satisfied in 10 years from now, when I'm hopefully an experienced and skilled 9mm shooter.
    - A 9mm equivalent to a Lexus :)

    I've heard that cheap 9mm's usually suck, and that I should avoid them, so I'm willing to pay a good deal of money for a good one.

    My own reseach has ended at Sig Sauer P226 X-Five Classic which seems to fulfill my above requirements - and tells you something about how much money I'm willing to spend.

    What do you think about the X-Five relative to my requirements?

    Any other suggestions?
     
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  2. hardluk1

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    I think I would take a hard look at CZ 75 SA, depending on the class for shoot the Tactical Sport or Shadow T for a great SA trigger and longer 5.4 barrel or Witness Elit Limited and on the lower cost end a witness match. I knw the witness match has a great trigger and very accurate so the limited has to be better and set up for a frame mount for optics.

    The witness line has a Henningshootsguns for everything wanted for any competition .
    http://www.henningshootsguns.com/
     

  3. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    The CZ has a long trigger pull.
    Your requirement of an adjustable trigger would probably have to be scratched. Once adjusted, there is normally no need to readjust.

    Take a look at either a 1911 or Browning Hi-Power.
    There are many aftermarket products available, every smith knows how to work on them.
    You can get adjustable sights, remove the magazine safety on the HP, easy to take down and clean.
     
  4. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

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    I have had great success with every P226 I have ever owned since 1988. Greate choice on the X-five. Enjoy.
     
  5. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    You need a Dan Wesson PM-9.
     
  6. JW357

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    CZ 75 Tactical Sport, I believe has a SA trigger.

    Or a Metro Arms SPS Vista Sport, if you really wanna spend some serious money.

    I use genitron.com and use the compare handguns button up at the top. You can specify whatever parameters you want.
     
  7. Mercator

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    my experience with the X Five is consistent with your research. In fact reading your post I knew it would be my answer before I saw yours. It is my bullseye 9mm.
     
  8. DP03

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    Me too. I'm currently looking for a 9mm for my wife, but with somewhat different requirements (may look at the p290 or 938). But the 226 is a top notch 9 that seems to meet the OP requirments.
     
  9. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    I bought my wife Glock G34 competition for Christmas , but I have not had it out yet . Has a factory 4.5# trigger , micro adjustable rear sights , comes with 4 differet back straps 2 with beaver tails , 3 mags . I would also take a lok at the XDM 5.25 competitoon very sweet rig
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  10. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    I think you are right on target with your choice of the Sig X-Five. Considering your location it seems logical. The 210 is a great target gun and the trigger should be tunable by a good gunsmith. I think there is a newer version with an enlarged beavertail to prevent hammer bite.

    1911s are popular here in the US and a 9mm version would be a good option, but I am not sure how common a good 1911 gunsmith would be near you.

    Good luck on your selection, and welcome to the sport of bullseye shooting.
     
  11. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Here is the Sig 210 Legend target model.
    http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p210-legend-target.aspx

    It has more of a beaver tail, a single action triger and target sights. The budget is definitely higher than the X-Five.
    If you can find one the Smith and Wesson 952 is another great target 9mm.

    Again I shoot military matches with a 1911, but have also shot them in the past with a Beretta 92, that was very competative. They had a target match version for a while that had a extended sight radius and compensator, and an improved trigger along with adjustable target sights. They may be more common in europe than here in the US.
     
  12. cluznar

    cluznar New Member

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    For a first 9mm I would suggest the Ruger SR9, or the S&W MP9, maybe the Stoeger Cougar (great gun for moderate price) or the Beretta PX4 Storm 9mm. Take a look at these.
     
  13. steadyshot

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    I recommend an STI Edge in 9mm. Available with 17, 20, 26 or 10 round magazines. IPSC and USPSA approved.

    I've had one for about a year and have no complaints...

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  14. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    Guy's I'm pretty sure this gentleman is looking for a pretty dedicated target gun that will have some accuracy potential above the standard off the shelf handguns. Shooting one handed at bullseye targets and wanting a single action only trigger, with target sights doesn't quite fit the Ruger SR9 or S&W M&P line of guns or the double action trigger and rotating lock-up of the Cougar.

    It also doesn't sound like he plans on run-and-gun games like IPSC and USPSA in Denmark, and 1911 gunsmiths may be a bit less common there.
     
  15. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    Go to several gun stores and actually hold all the guns that fit your needs and see which one feels the most ergonomically in your hand.
     
  16. ShootingForFun

    ShootingForFun New Member

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    Thank you all for your replies! You are very kind :)

    As SSGN_Doc writes, I'm looking for a very special gun, not a tuned millitary/police type of gun. I have been looking at a lot of the guns you have suggested over time, and some of your suggestions are new to me, for example the Dan Wesson Pointman 9 and the SPS Vista. Unfortunately, these guns are not very common in Denmark. Even finding a place to buy one seems difficult.

    What specially attracts me to the X-Five is that it is highly user customizable. The dead rock solid swiss/german highly recognized quality, and the fact that it is at least as accurate and durable as the legendary Sig P210, is also very important, even though I know, that a couple of the suggested guns are in that class. And I have large hands, which disqualifies a lot of single stack magazine 9's, since the rounder grip of the double stacked types fits my hand beautyfully.

    I have been around the CZ Tactical Sport, Browning Hi-Power, Sig P210 legend (I have shot a nicely trigger tuned P210 with high beaver tail, and it is a beautiful gun), STI Edge and STI Eagle (which I have also tried. The chairman of the club owns one). Also some S&W's has been brought to my attention, as being very fine target shooting guns (S&W is quite popular in Denmark). I have seriously thought about buying one of those very high quality guns!

    But the X-Five is very different from the above mentioned guns due to it's very user customizable nature. This attracts me very much, since I'm not that experienced, and therefore not sure that my preferences now, are my preferences in a couple of years. And I'm of a very experimental nature, so I really like the super user customizable trigger of the X-Five - and the picatinny rail, that allows me to do dry shooting at home with a movement sensing laser system attached.

    Maybe some of you has heard of a gun with properties of the above mentioned similar to that of the X-Five?

    That would interest me very much :)

    PS: There are a lot of 1911's around in Denmark. A historically interested member of the club showed me his .45 caliber M1911A1 from 1943 the other day! And has promised me a testshooting. I'm really looking forward to try it, and feel the effect of the super hard dangly trigger on my accuracy ;-)
     
  17. JW357

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    I wish I could help you more. The type of gun you're looking for is beyond what I use my guns for.

    However, I will say there's no reason I can think of (unless we're talking about your law over there, which I am unfamiliar with) that says you can't have more than one gun.

    That being said, if you decide on one now, and your preferences change in a few years, that just gives you more reason to get another. ;)
     
  18. hardluk1

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    Dan_fl Guess you did not know CZ has some fine Single Action pistols.
     
  19. ShootingForFun

    ShootingForFun New Member

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    I would like to own a lot of 9mm's, but danish firearms legislation allows me to own only two 9mm's at one given time :-( That makes it difficult to choose one, since I don't want to by and sell too much: Buying requires tons of paper work and a lot of waiting. The second permit I will spend on some fun historical stuff like a Browning HP or Luger maybee. Something that's quite different from the target shooting 9mm I'm about to invest in.

    I can tell you this much: Don't move to Denmark if you like firearms! There are a lot of restrictions on calibers and weapon types. No .44 Magnum or .50 caliber handguns, no semi- or full-auto rifles, no submachine guns and no Barrets for example. Guns are only allowed for target shooting and hunting, not self defense. Air guns with caliber higher than .177 requires a police permit. Illegal firearms possession will put you behind bars for at least a year, no matter what firearm we are talking about. And worst of all: The police can enter a gun owners home without a varrant!

    But there are possibilities outside Denmark: My also shooting girlfriend and I are planning a nice vacation in the US, where we will shoot some serious hardware bigtime :)
     
  20. Jstrong

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    Can't help you with any other suggestion besides that the X-5 sounds like your winner.

    I have one of the new p226 Elite SAO which is a duty gun but it has the x-5 frame on a p226 elite slide,love the ergos of the x-5 grip and the thumb safety