A defensive weopon for Non_US citizen travelling thru?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by Scare_Rab, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. Scare_Rab

    Scare_Rab New Member

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    I am lucky enough to be visiting the (Western) United States this coming November; 4 great weeks ahead.
    The Mrs. & I will hire a vehicle and drive around - Los Angeles ; Death Valley, Reno - Grand Canyon Idaho - Washington- vague plans but lots of camping in the Beautiful out-doors.
    I am a citizen of NZ. I have an NZ 'Firearms license'.
    I'd like to have with me a Remington 870, an SKS and a 1911. Kinda covering "close"; very Close & -further away-.
    Of course I can rarely actually have with me *ALL* three of those good buddies. I make do.

    My question: how to go about protecting myself and loved one during 4 weeks car travel through these Western States. I have done some 'Googling'. Seems I can use my I-94 permission to enter and my passport when asking for a license. I'm thinking it my be better to leave California and travel to a more reasonable State = eg Nevada, or Idaho - or Washington or Arizona?



    Any suggestions ... questions ... comments?

    Steve
     
  2. okdonk

    okdonk New Member

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    All i know, non US residents aren't allowed to buy firearms. You can only rent them in gun shooting ranges.
     

  3. Scare_Rab

    Scare_Rab New Member

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    ..not U.S. Citizen?---required to demonstrate that they are legally....

    If the buyer is not a U.S. Citizen, then he or she is required to demonstrate that he or she is legally within the United States by providing to the firearms dealer with documentation that contains his/her Alien Registration Number or I-94 Number.

    http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f17/concealed-carry-travel-resources-45366/
     
  4. okdonk

    okdonk New Member

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    I assume you aren't in US yet. And on November you are coming into US as a tourist or visitor. Am i right?
    Why would tourists be allowed to own or purchase firearms in US? If i visit your country, NZ, will i be allowed to own or purchase firearms?
     
  5. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Legal aliens (though they are few in numbers today) can purchase firearms if they meet the requirements of "resident aliens".

    My spouse is a good example. She is German, registered as "resident alien" with proper documentation.

    Visitors on a temporary visa are not allowed to purchase firearms. I do not know if pepper spray is restricted from purchase.
     
  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Onk- stop asking us to explain WHY a law was written the way it was written. As far as I am concerned, they were eating mushroom pizza at the time, and I suspect it was the mushrooms.

    Rab- US citizens and Resident Aliens (am also married to one) may purchase firearms. Non-resident aliens may purchase a firearm under limited circumstances.

    For MOST visitors, the circumstance would be that you have a hunting license, and purchase a hunting weapon. Please note that for a non-resident, that would be likely rather expensive, require a hunter safety course, etc etc. Stay out of CA, and pepper spray is available over-the-counter at a LOT of places.

    For those that say a non-resident alien cannot legally buy a firearm- (no, am not going into state law like NJ or ILL) some reading for you- A friend publishes a blog called NRVoutdoors.com He is a proff of Veterinary Medicine at Virginia Tech, nice guy, and a very readable writer.

    Go to nrvoutdoors.com. On the LEFT side, scroll down quite a ways until you come to "Mike buys a rifle- Adventures of a Non-Resident Alien at Walmart".
     
  7. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    If it turns out that a firearm and/or pepper spray are not options buy a can of wasp spray. Honestly its better than pepper spray, usually cheaper, has around a 20' range and is completely legal.
     
  8. tellmaster207

    tellmaster207 New Member

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    Never heard that before. Probably cheaper two, will it make you go blind?
     
  9. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    The "90 day residency" was just dropped under FEDERAL law.
     
  10. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Could potentially kill you. I have a buddy that uses it on the chipmunks eating his garden (can't use his .22). They run about 4' and drop dead.