A 10-year-old boy arrested for toy gun

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  1. AIKIJUTSU

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  2. texaswoodworker

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    Its not that they were playing with a toy gun, it's that they were playing with a realist toy gun, and pointing it at random people, who thought it was a real gun.

    A US Marine called 911 and got his own gun after they pointed it at him. What does that say about this situation?

    The story says that the boys were released, and have not been charged with anything yet. They may have just taken them in and had a word with them about doing stuff like this.

     
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  3. trip286

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    This wasn't "playing war" in the backyard like I did as a kid. Their actions were clearly purposed to intimidate. Why? Who the hell knows. But with the way that guy was flipping the bird at the TV cameras, I have to agree with the one lady, "gotta be the parent's fault."
     
  4. kbd512

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    I forget what grade I was in (I recall I was still in elementary school), but we were all assembled in the school cafeteria with our parents whereupon a uniformed police officer walked up to a podium and stated quite flatly that despite our young ages, if any one of us ever pointed what appeared to be a firearm at a police officer at school we could expect to be shot if we didn't shoot the officer first. A couple of the parents were upset by this, but most of them came to the conclusion that pointing guns or toys that look like real guns at police officers is not a very bright idea and might just get you shot. I was appropriately admonished by my parents not to do something that stupid and never did. Apparently some kids didn't receive that simple bit of wisdom. Probably budget cuts, health care regulations, or some other such silliness.
     
  5. trip286

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    I was told the same thing, soon after a young boy was shot and killed by cops nearby. I think it was in Memphis...

    That was around the time it became standard policy to put orange tips on toy guns. I hated that orange tip, but I didn't try to take it off or paint it or anything. Not because I was scared of the cops, but because it didn't detract from the playability of a toy gun.

    When I was about 16, the cops were called on me. I was riding with a friend, and he had a 1911 BB pistol in his glove box. I was playing with it. I actually shot myself in the bare foot to see how much cod sak it had. It didn't hurt anymore than a little sting (it would barely punch a hole through paper later).

    Anyway, it looked real as hell. I was just checking it out, and a passerby saw me stopped at a redlight, sees a kid with a gun, and thought I'd carjacked my best buddy. Called the cops.

    That five minute up close and personal chat with the officer who responded was pretty tense.
     
  6. Bigcountry02

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    Great freakin' parenting here!!

    Why do I get the feeling this isn't his first (or last) brush with the law???
    Lucky he didn't get his punk-@$$ shot... but hope still springs eternal for that I bet.
     
  8. Jagermeister

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    Shows a lot about the family when the passenger gives the finger. Also, the gun did look real. When I was a kid, you could easily tell a real gun from a fake gun. I think it is irresponsible for the toy company to make a realistic gun for children. Also, the parents/parent is stupid for buying something like that in the first place. Bad parenting is returned ten fold unto the parent.
     
  9. Cattledog

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    Yeah I ran around plenty with toy guns when I was his age.... on my own block...around people that knew my friends and I liked to run through their yards playing "army".

    My parents would have beat my ass If they saw me waving a toy gun in random peoples faces to get a rise out of em. Holy hell! I might have taken that kids toy and swatted him on the head myself if I saw that in public. This is exactly what throws fuel on the fire for those "zero tolerance" idiots, sending kids home for wearing t-shirts with guns on them. I thought this story was similar. Its not. Yes, that kid needed to talk to some cops because his parents obviously arent doing their goddamned job of not raising an a$shole. Kids lucky he wasn't shot and hell probably be lucky to make it through puberty.
     
  10. DFlynt

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    I'll leave these from the 60's and 70's. I had the 1st and the 5th, a cousin had the 4th one and the kid next door to me had the 2nd one.
     

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  11. c3shooter

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    C&P from Code of Virginia, 18.2-282 B.

    Any police officer in the performance of his duty, in making an arrest under the provisions of this section, shall not be civilly liable in damages for injuries or death resulting to the person being arrested if he had reason to believe that the person being arrested was pointing, holding, or brandishing such firearm or air or gas operated weapon, or object that was similar in appearance, with intent to induce fear in the mind of another.

    Translation- point what appears to be a real gun at a cop here, get shot, you or your heirs are not going to be able to sue the cop.
     
  12. gr8oldguy

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    Here's a pic of a C02 bb gun I use for practice. It's made of metal and from a few feet you cannot tell the difference between it and a firearm. The young boy learned a valuable lesson. I hope he's smart enough to remember it.
     

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  13. NC1760

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    Great freakin' parenting part 2....

    We can all look back fondly on the innocence of our own childhood toys & experiences ... But what HAS changed since then is the lack of personal responsibility and the parenting dynamic. Here's another case of children who should have had an @$$ whoopin' some time back;
    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...in-youtube-video-authorities-say?lite=&43001=

    ...and before you go there, Yes.. I am a parent. He's a great kid... I've had to spank him 3 times his entire childhood (he's 11 now so do the math...) and he's growing into a responsible, caring person who knows he can come to me with anything and everything.
     
  14. Jagermeister

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    Wow! Things were different back then though. I am also sure cops knew they were not real. Today, we live in a different world. Things have changed so much. The family was different, morals, values, respect, citizenship and parenting. Good conservative beliefs is dying away.
     
  15. texaswoodworker

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    If someone pointed one of those things at me, I'd possibly shoot them without hesitation. They look pretty real to me.

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  16. DFlynt

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    That's the set I had as a kid.
     
  17. texaswoodworker

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    How realistic are they close up? At a distance, its hard to tell they're not real. Especially if they are pointed at you.
     
  18. gearhead396

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    Same here even if kids surround my car and aim a weapon at me I'm shooting. These kids where not " playing"with a toy gun, they where "using" the toy gun to scare people big difference. If I was that kids dad he have alot more to worry about than the cops!: mad
     
  19. AIKIJUTSU

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    Maybe the toy gun looked "real" enough to scare people. The girls he was pointing it at didn't appear to be taking it seriously, though. But times have changed a lot since I was young. Back then, the assumption would have been that it was a toy, and nobody would have taken it seriously. I'm afraid that is what my take on it would have been, just that it was a kid with a toy. So far as the guy giving the reporter the finger, that may have been to discourage the TV crew from exposing his kid on national TV. The "news" (scandal) media is acting as if they are an authority figure, an extension of the government. There is no legal nor moral requirement to cooperate with interrogation by the TV reporters. If it were my kid, I'd make sure he didn't put himself in that position again, including taking the toy gun(s) away from him until he was old/mature enough to be more responsible. All said, he is a little kid. People are treating it like he was a seasoned gang-banger, and reacting like they are out for his blood.
     
  20. Chainfire

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    If you use a toy gun in the commission of a felony you still get gun charges.

    If the kid had pulled that on me or my wife, he may have been killed in the process. That would have ruined two families, his and mine. I will no more let a ten year old kill me or my wife, than I would a 40 year old, if I can can stop it.

    As far as comparing the "toy" gun issue to the 50s or 60s; it is a different world today.