9mm supply and demand

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by Vincine, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. Vincine

    Vincine New Member

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    Ignoring all the other caliber and reloading arguments for now (please), which of the following do you believe is most likely?

    a) The most common handgun caliber is the most likely to be produced and available;
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    b) The most common handgun caliber is the most likely to be in demand and unavailable.
     
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  2. c3shooter

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    With the exception of .22 rimfire, I believe 9mm Parabellum is the most common pistol cartridge in the world. .380 (in the US) came into VERY short supply last year- many ammo makers did seasonal runs of that, and the intro of a couple of popular new .380s, coupled with seasonal production, created a temporary shortage.

    It is also the standard military sidearm cartridge of several nations (including all NATO members, if you consider the 9mm NATO and 9mm Parabellum to be the same round) I have heard the claim you could find 9mm ammo in any major city in the world.

    Remember that ammo is consumable- if you have an oddball caliber, while demand is low, so is production. Finding that can be a matter of luck. Seen any .35 S&W Auto ammo around lately? (no, not a typo- .35 S&W! :p)
     

  3. Vincine

    Vincine New Member

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    I've learned about the ubiquitous 9mm. (I do my homework.) Thanks.
    Yes. And where production would be high, it's because the demand is high too, hence my question. So you think 9mm will always be on the shelf?
     
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  4. c3shooter

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    Yes. Sort of like .308 and 30-30 rifle. The 8.82 Grunchenticker Super Short Long magnum may be the latest round every gun magazine is swooning over, but I can walk into any WalMart or country store that carries ammo, odds are I can find those two rounds.
     
  5. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    Negative! The only ammo I see on the shelves locally, is the ammo that sells.
     
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  6. TrueNorth

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    Well, I guess it would depend somewhat on the situation... but generally speaking I would imagine that the most popular rounds will be easier to find on the shelf than any niche/oddball round even in spite of high demand.

    9mm in particular can almost surely be found in some way, shape or form because not only is it extremely popular and therefore in high production and found at about any gun store, it's also likely to be in many households, and is in most police stations and military bases. Not only in the US but also in Canada and probably most other countries.

    It's a good question, and in an emergency where production stops for an extended period, the popular ones might dry out first, but since the civilian and military stockpiles are so high I would think thats it will be easy to find. It may even get special production priority and be the last of the ammo in production due to the government military uses.
    Also, if the 9mm dries up, you can bet that the other ammo has also dried up since once one goes, people will take anything they can get.

    As I said, it depends on the situation, but I think 9mm is a safe bet. especially for planning purposes right now when production is running. Even if your loal shop is out, it will get some soon, so get your order in!
     
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  7. Davo45

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    I'll vote on the 9mm too for being most likely to find worldwide. In the U.S. I'd say it's a toss up between the 9mm, .40 S&W and .45 ACP. Most LE agencies here use the .40 and I've yet to be unable to find it on the shelf at any store that sells it. The .45 ACP is a popular round too and readily available. The 9mm has the edge in cost.

    The .38 Spl & .357 Mag are both popular and fairly easy to find, but not as much as the others listed and cost somewhere between the .40 & .45.
     
  8. chrstian_indy

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    Great thread!

    I'm planning on getting me a Ruger Blackhawk convt. comes with a 9mm and 357 (but can also shoot .38sp). SO its like 3 guns in 1 :D

    i think the .22lr is very common and the 9mm too.
     
  9. canebrake

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    As long as the 9mm cylinder is used for plinking only and nothing else you should be a happy camper. Accuracy is an issue with the 9 mike mike for several compromised reasons.

    The gun is built with a 38/357 barrel designed to shoot the 9.1mm bullet. When you throw a 9×19mm Parabellum, 9.03mm bullet down the same barrel it has more of a jump to make into the rifling and "rattles" down the barrel.

    When going 9mm you must shoot jacketed bullets. The 9mm cylinder head spaces on the rim mouth. There is the typical back and forth play that is common in a revolver. Lead will shave a tad on the head space of the cylinder.

    As a 357 it will serve you well as a hunter and personal defense piece.

    My choice, should I want to go convertible, would be the Blackhawk chambered in 45LC/45Auto.

    I have the Blackhawk chambered in 30 carbine. Outstanding gun and wicked accurate.
     
  10. chrstian_indy

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    So when purchasing ammo fro the blackhawk i need to take in consideration the diameter of the bullet?
     
  11. opaww

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    Here during the shortage we had plenty of .40 S&W but saw a shortage of the other stuff.
     
  12. chrstian_indy

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    Since we're on topic.

    (Feel free not to participate in answering my question, you know....big brother is watching).

    What ammo do you guys have piled up, how many, and why?
     
  13. Trez

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    Canes just saying the 9mm wont be as accurate.. If I remember correctly 9mm measures .355" and .38/.357 is .357"... With that said I dont really notice that much difference when I shoot the Medusa with ether rounds. My favorite plinking round outta the 'dusa is actually .380 ACP, and I think thats a .355" bullet.

    Its really a shame Colt never used Phillips idea, those little "fingers" seem to eliminate the problems other "multi-caliber" revolvers have..
    The more I read on other multi-caliber guns, the more I realize Im one lucky SOB to have a Medusa...:cool:
     
  14. Trez

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    More than most, not as much as some.... ;)
     
  15. falseharmonix

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    In my area (I was in St. Louis Metro East) when Obamalamadingdong took office, all semi-auto handgun calibers (especially 9x19) were impossible to find on the shelves for about a year. When you could find it, the prices were close to double the "normal" price.

    .380, 9x19, .40, and .45 seemed to be snatched up as quickly as possible. Occasionally I saw some .32 auto, and .22, but mostly it was just 12ga birdshot and oddball rifle calibers that weren't as popular and stayed on the shelves (7.62x51/.308, 7.62x39, and .223/5.56 was never to be found, unless you rolled your own). IIRC, this was the same throughout most of the country.
     
  16. Poink88

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    This is called thread hi-jacking. Please start a separate thread for this. Actually, if you search, I believe we have one already.
     
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  17. Poink88

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    Both but before the supply is depleted I believe all the other calibers will be out sooner.

    I will stick with the more popular calibers and believe 9mm is the most popular right now. 40 S&W might become the next most popular soon at least where I am since most LEO's are forced to use it.
     
  18. JonM

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    A. 9mm 45acp, the military/police use and stockpile both.

    B. Pretty much all of it will dissappear over nite in a true shtf situation. You will be scavanging as gunshops will liekly close the doors make sure their buddies are equipped and thats about it.

    I dont get too worked up over what gun to use my main choices are 1911 and ar15/m16. If it gets to scrounging time your just as liekly to battlefield pickup entire weapons as you are the ammo they use. Granted you survive the battle to do a pickup...
     
  19. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    The last time at the local stores for ammo, the hardest ammo to find on the shelves is .45 and .357 SIG ammo.