9mm or 223?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by nick223, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. nick223

    nick223 New Member

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    I want to get an AR the problem is I shoot once a week so I wanna keep it as cheap as possible I've looked at the 9mm and 223 can't decide what to get I understand I loose accuracy at longer range with the 9 but it's cheaper to shoot than the 233. I need help with my decision!!!!! Any advice or input would be great.
     
  2. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    What kind of shooting do you do? Do you plan on building it, or buying it complete?

    If you want to shoot targets at longer distances with pretty good accuracy (100-200 yards or more), go with 5.56. Just make sure to get it chambered in 5.56, not .223. They are both basically the same round, but you cannot shoot 5.56 out of a .223 due to 5.56 being a hotter load. You can shoot .223 out of a 5.56 though.

    If you just want to send rounds down range at shorter distances, go with the 9mm or .22 LR (if you want it really cheap.).

    Hope this helps.
     
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  3. Vincine

    Vincine New Member

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    "I wanna keep it as cheap as possible", 9mm ?

    This is a .22lr:
    http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...4_750001_750051_757786_-1_757784_757784_image
     
  4. nick223

    nick223 New Member

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    I own a home range so basically just target shooting I have a 22lr colt love it! But I want something with a bigger round. the longest shot I'll be taking is probably 200 yards. is the 5.56 any cheaper than the 223 rounds?
     
  5. nick223

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  6. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    seems if you look around you will find that both are going to be pretty close in price , were talking pennies per round , 50 rds of 9mm at $9 is $0.18 @ shot, I dont buy 9mm in bulk so I dont know how much cheaper it can really get . I bought 1000 rds of .223 for $189 @ $0.189 per rd . Pick what you will but if your looking at shooting over 100 yards the 9mm would not be my choice
     
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  7. dks7895

    dks7895 New Member

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    9mm effective range is about the same as 22LR. Get the 5.56
     
  8. nick223

    nick223 New Member

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    Definetly leaning towards the 5.56 if the 9 is going to be about the same as my 22 there's no point in investing in it.
     
  9. hardluk1

    hardluk1 Active Member

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    Forget the 9mm, 100 yards an accurate don't go together with a 9mm. Ether get a the AR or for very good accuracy get a quality .22lr or 17hmr bolt rifle. The 17hmr will shoot to 200 yard amd ether can shoot 100 yard groups no mill spec AR's can do. Look at CZ or savage buy a decent 6-24 power scope. That would be a rifle you could use at rimfire matchs at the area ranges to. Even the best .22 ammo is still cheaper to shot.
     
  10. nick223

    nick223 New Member

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    trying to keep it more of a tactical look. But I would like a .17 hmr but there few and far between for a decent one where I live :(
     
  11. Vincine

    Vincine New Member

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    I don't know about cheaper. Maybe it's more available in bulk:

    5.56x45mm Lake City M855 FMJ 62 Grain Steel Penatrator 1000 Loose Bulk Case 3025 FPS
    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM223C-5.html

    The Russian steel case .223 is pretty cheap.
    .223 Remington TulAmmo, FMJ, 55 Grain, 20 Round Box 3241 FPS Steel Cased Polymer Coated Made in Russia
    http://www.cheaperthandirt.net/AMM2900-1.html
     
  12. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    even with the .17hmr your still looking around $0.25 @ shot . its tough to get much cheaper ammo than the .223 ammo besides .22 lr


    Nick if you dont mind building your own lower which really isnt that hard to do and takes less than 30 min and you own a few small tools to do it with small hammer, punchs and allen wrenches , you can have a good quality AR From $579-$700 from Palmetto State Armory
    The link below should take care of what im talking about
    You just need to figure out how and for what your going to use it for based on the barrels , lengths and profiles

    http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/firearms/receivers/psa-ar15-lower.html

    http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/rifle-kits.html
     
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  13. Belltactical

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    I load up on 556 whenever there's a "sale" from some place like cheaper than dirt. I'll order a boatload of LC when it's on sale - the UPS guy hates me.
     
  14. nick223

    nick223 New Member

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    20in barrel sound about right ?
     
  15. Belltactical

    Belltactical New Member

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    Personal preference I suppose. My go to's are 16 inches. My target is a 20 inch bull.
     
  16. nick223

    nick223 New Member

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    16 is what I want but will it make a accurate mark at 200yrds?
     
  17. nick223

    nick223 New Member

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    Awsome I like the look of the shorter barrel
     
  18. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    Im a short barrel AR guy myself I like the 16" which should get you plenty of accuracy out to 300 Yds , My longer distance gun out to 500 is a Savage bolt gun 22" barrel , if I cant get what I need out that far I get the 270 out :D
     
  19. Belltactical

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    It ain't the look that counts when the **** hits the fan but I take your point.
    Get the right sbr tax stamps and local approvals and ill build you a real pretty one in 14.5. :)