9mm help

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by jjfuller1, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    Trying to get my COL set. Right now I'm at 1.125 with a 124 gr FMJ RN. I've looked in both my manuals and the measurements differ a lot. One says max OAL 1.162... The other lists 1.142 as a min OAL. But there tested data says 1.135.... Slightly confused.
     
  2. Dan308

    Dan308 New Member

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    1.169 is MAX if you're at 1.125 you should be fine
     

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  4. BILLYBOB44

    BILLYBOB44 New Member

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    9mm oal...

    :)The difference that you are getting in OAL (Overall Length) is due to the different ogive in different Mfg. bullets.

    In general you want to use the Max OAL that will fit YOUR chamber and magazine. Field strip your pistol, and do the "Drop Test" into your chamber. With the proper length and crimp, your loads should have the same "Klunk" sound as a Factory Load. The longer the better, as long as they will also fit your magazine, without binding. Yes-fill the mag. to be sure:D..Bill.
     
  5. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    One of the easiest ways to set oal is to put a factory round of the same bullet weight and configuration in the shell holder and adjust to the factory length.

    Lotsa folks get their panties all wadded up over oal, when the only thing you really need to worry about is not seating shorter than minimum, and not seating too long to feed through the magazine.

    I've had really good luck loading to factory ammo length. It works fro them, and so far it has worked for me.:)
     
  6. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    mm good idea. i did measure a factory load but i dont recall what distance i got. it wasa round 1.14 i think. well i will try to play around later tonight again
     
  7. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    As stated, different bullets from different manufacturers have different profiles. Different OAL for different bullets is to be expected. Just because one set of data uses one OAL and other data uses a different OAL means nothing. What specific powder and charge weight is specified. All this proves is you must work up a safe load using your specific components and YOUR gun.
     
  8. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    okay, one more question.. anyone know a good powder for the 124gr bullets? for 115 i was gonna use 231 but when i looked up the 124 it only listed WSF.. is there any other data i can look at or powders that you know would still work??
     
  9. BILLYBOB44

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    You are right--To a Point..

    You will find NO problems using 125gr. specs on your 124gr. bullets. That opens the selection to you.

    That weight of 9MM bullet is completely interchangeable. If you want some fun--weigh a dozen or so of your bullets??HA HA...Bill.;)
     
  12. nitestalker

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    BillBob44 a very good post.:)
     
  13. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    cool, i'll try to get more titegroup or 231 then. thanks guys
     
  14. BILLYBOB44

    BILLYBOB44 New Member

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    Thanks nitestalker..

    I thank you Stalker..I don't know if it's just me, or what. When I read data specs on similuar bullets-52gr./53gr.-88gr./90gr.-124gr./125gr.-158gr./160gr.==I usually compare specs over several different load books, or data lists, and start around Mid range+work up my loads.:rolleyes:

    Not to slam, or put someone down, but it just seems like common sense??

    Hell, this is NOT Rocket Science??:eek: Is it??:DHA HA..Bill.;)
     
  15. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    No not rocket science. Just airing on the side of caution when dealing with mini explosives:)
     
  16. BILLYBOB44

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    Good Deal jj...

    Yea, jj, you are right on..It is ALWAYS best to move slow+ask questions. Most things in this hobby are flexible, but there are some things that MUST be followed EXACTLY.

    For ME, I usually start with the Mid range specs when working up a new load+go from there. We ARE always learning though.

    I had been loading for a few years 9MM for use in my CZ pistols-CZ-75's and PO-1. Had a good Mid range load, at about 900-925fps that shot well and performed well in my CZ's.--Guess what?? They would NOT work worth a Snot on the new Glock 17 that I bought!!HA HA..A Glock NEEDS more Ump to operate the action..My CZ loads would "Stove Pipe" on most every shot with the 900fps loads!! Beefed them up to 1000-1050fps, and they run just fine in the Glocks now...Like I say...ALWAYS LEARNING...Bill.:D
     
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  17. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    i loaded up 14 rounds to test last night. gonna stop quick today and rattle em off. why 14? just grabbed a handful and that was the amount.

    the manual called for 3.5 to 3.7 gr of clays for a 125gr fmj.

    so i loaded my 124fmj with 3.5gr.
    COL is 1.145.
    they seemed to be okay for the drop in test.

    i was a little shocked at the small margine listed so hopefully they work well. if it does i have a few hundred empties that will be filled very, very soon.
     
  18. jjfuller1

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    well, all 14 shot. also had 14 FTE's. not one shell left the chamber. no stove pipes, so i just got home, loaded 5 more of 3.6, and 5 of 3.7. hopefully one of these will get me a reliable load. now, if you happen to have a revolver like the blackhawk. the 3.5 loads shot really nice!
     
  19. locutus

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    I've tried all suitable powders in 9MM, and now I use nothing but HS-6 in all loads and all bullet weights.

    Power Pistol and AAC#7 would be my second choice.

    Herco is actually the best, but it's a PITA to meter through the powder measure.

    AAC#7 was developed by Israeli Military Industries (IMI) specifically for the 9MM
     
  20. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    if i had powder options right now that would be just dandy.. i bought what the store had left. lol