I got a stick and a Red Ryder, wanna try them??

sure!

i still see decent enough to shoot! and hit what i'm aiming at!

 

I realize that you don't like wearing contact lenses, but there are contact lenses that reshape the surface of the cornea, worn only at night, that can, so long as you don't have too much astigmatism, give you relatively good vision and eliminate the need to wear heavy prescription glasses. The process is reversible, as in not permanent, and it doesn't carry the risks and complications with it that surgery does.

An optometrist can map the shape of your cornea to see if you're a good candidate. In the span of about 20 to 30 minutes, they can test fit your eyes and your vision will be corrected a number of diopters, typically. Meaning you can test and evaluate the ability of the treatment to do what it's supposed to do. I know of instances where kids were previously wearing coke bottles and now have little to no additional correction needed.

It is much easier to treat the eyes of children, especially preschoolers. In my time children without obvious vision problems were not given eye exams until they got in school. I have lazy eye, but my eyes track normally. If was born in today's generation my eyes would have been treated in time for the treatment to be effective. Don't feel sorry for me. Most of my life I have had better than average vision.

 

Boy did we ever derail this tread. My apologize to the OP. Hey I'm 52 tomorrow! I still use irons every chance I get. Love the 8x57, I think it is superior to the .30-06, but that is just my experience. Give it a good stout load w/ 175-200gr and nothing goes far.

 

This has been an interesting thread. As it happens, im near sighted and just started to wear contacts. Itll be interesting to see if its much different than glasses. I plan on using 198gr 8x57 Mauser. Ive always used 180gr .30-06, but we just found some 220gr i believe.


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This has been an interesting thread. As it happens, im near sighted and just started to wear contacts. Itll be interesting to see if its much different than glasses. I plan on using 198gr 8x57 Mauser. Ive always used 180gr .30-06, but we just found some 220gr i believe.


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Yes there is some 220 if you can find it. Big medicine for moose.

 

This has been an interesting thread. As it happens, im near sighted and just started to wear contacts. Itll be interesting to see if its much different than glasses. I plan on using 198gr 8x57 Mauser. Ive always used 180gr .30-06, but we just found some 220gr i believe.


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The 220 are really for Magnums. You may find accuracy is so so. Sierra make a 200gr sp that should be perfect.

 

Also ask what is your hunting environment? If it's open plains where you'll be taking 300-600 yard shots with a 30X scope, the flatter shooting .30-06 would probably be superior. If hunting in brush or may have to take a shot where the target is behind brush, the heavy bullet 8mm may handle so,e brush-crushing with less deflection. Temperature and barometric pressure may also affect one round over another if follow-up shots are a possibility. Each should be tested in real World conditions to determine if one is better in those conditions.

I agree about the 30/06. Unless you buy big 200 gr+ round nose bullets a 30/06 is like a pinball machine in the woods. Brush that a shotgun slug just plows through will send a 150 gr PSP bullet careening wildly. If I shoot through brush with a 30/06 I am planning to shoot the deer at least twice.

In comparison I have yet to see an 8mm rifle you can hit a deer with. Until I see an accurate 8mm rifle the 30/06 is king. Teddy Roosevelt killed virtually every big game animal in North America with a 30/06. Literally thousands of grand slams have been accomplished with a 30/06. Even African grand slams have been accomplished with a 30/06.

 

I agree about the 30/06. Unless you buy big 200 gr+ round nose bullets a 30/06 is like a pinball machine in the woods. Brush that a shotgun slug just plows through will send a 150 gr PSP bullet careening wildly. If I shoot through brush with a 30/06 I am planning to shoot the deer at least twice.

In comparison I have yet to see an 8mm rifle you can hit a deer with. Until I see an accurate 8mm rifle the 30/06 is king. Teddy Roosevelt killed virtually every big game animal in North America with a 30/06. Literally thousands of grand slams have been accomplished with a 30/06. Even African grand slams have been accomplished with a 30/06.

JD, I agree with you many times, not this one. There never has been a U.S. company that made a 8x57 rifle. The majority of 8x57 rifles are vet bring backs and bubba specials. You need to try a true purpose built 8x57 hunter. Most people have never seen one.

 

JD, I agree with you many times, not this one. There never has been a U.S. company that made a 8x57 rifle. The majority of 8x57 rifles are vet bring backs and bubba specials. You need to try a true purpose built 8x57 hunter. Most people have never seen one.

I agree 100% but I have seen a bunch of vet bring backs that were accurate, except the 8mm and the type 53 mosin nagant. I have even pulled 303 Brit rifles out of the junk drum that were accurate with a little TLC. I have seen a bunch of Ariska 6.5x50 rifles that were accurate.

I have never seen a bubba job that was accurate.

 

I know this thread is old, but for posterity sake there's has been many accurate 8mm rifles, I've had a few myself. One I shot a coyote at about 250 yards with.

 

I agree 100% but I have seen a bunch of vet bring backs that were accurate, except the 8mm and the type 53 mosin nagant. I have even pulled 303 Brit rifles out of the junk drum that were accurate with a little TLC. I have seen a bunch of Ariska 6.5x50 rifles that were accurate.

I have never seen a bubba job that was accurate.

I have 2 very accurate 8x57's. One is a K98k Low turret w/ a Zeiss Zeilvier from 1945.
2nd is a 1955 Husqvarna 640, built on a 1947 FN '98 receiver. The Swede's bought 10,000 receivers in 1947, and built on them until 1962. Under 1000 per year. These were hand crafted rifles. You need to get out a bit more.
My Dad was in the Pacific During WWII. His thought on the 6.5 Jap is quite different then yours.

 

100 times the Mauser.Greater punch(4096 J),superb accuracy, smooth, reliable and easy to use.A piece of cake if you have to knock down a big game animal.

 

8x57 Heavy Ball or sS 198gr have a supersonic range of 1094 yards before it drops below supersonic. Even by todays standards, that is quite impressive. A scope cammed for this round is easily an 800 yard killer, even with a 4x scope.
I've got about 1500 rounds of it for my low turret.

 

Don't get me wrong. The .30-06 (7.62x63) is a fine round. It just for some reason gives up power when you shoot over 180gr bullets to the 7.92x57 in commercial rounds and especially reloads. The plus side of lighter bullets in both calibers is the person shooting 300 yards and under. You can zero at 200 yards and have an effective zero out to 300 w/ maybe a slight hold over. Again though, I would stay with 160..165gr. They are both Elk calibers w/ 160..165gr out to 300 yards without question. You will never be undergunned in the lower 48 with either.

 

Sad part is the OP has not been around since 6/2

 

Ive been reading all the posts and have found them quite educational. I plan on hunting bear and whitetail this year with the 8mm. I think it'll do the job just fine as long as i do my part.


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Ive been reading all the posts and have found them quite educational. I plan on hunting bear and whitetail this year with the 8mm. I think it'll do the job just fine as long as i do my part.


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I maybe wrong, but are you from NH? If so where?

 

I maybe wrong, but are you from NH? If so where?

Im in Franklin NH.


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Im in Franklin NH.


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Send me a PM if you want to go shooting. I've done some hunting in Andover.
I'm about 25 minutes south of you.

 

JD, I agree with you many times, not this one. There never has been a U.S. company that made a 8x57 rifle. The majority of 8x57 rifles are vet bring backs and bubba specials. You need to try a true purpose built 8x57 hunter. Most people have never seen one.

Both winchester and remington at one time listed 8MM Mauser rifles as standard items in their catalogs. As a matter of fact I was looking at one last week on gun broker.

I just checked GB and here it is
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=431936980

 

I don't think american ammo for the 8MM is loaded way down, I know it is. I shot some through a chronograph and the velocity is about the same as a 30-30.

Now, if you reload for the old 8MM it will shine as good and maybe a little better than the 06 and here's why. I reload for both and I see one thing that jumps out for the 8MM if your a reloader.
1st: If I reload 180 grain bullets in both cartridges I can get the same velocity form both with the same powder but the 8MM will obtain that same velocity with almost three grains less powder than the 06. It seem to be a very efficient cartridge case.
2nd : Most military rifles have very long free bore chambers so the bullets can be seated out quite a bit more than the 06, making the 8MM a little more favorable than the 06 when using heavy bullets. Most 06 rifles don't have long free bore chambers so heavy bullets have to be seated deeper in the case, and that takes up powder space.

I make my 8MM brass from 06 brass so that isn't a problem but some times trying to find 8MM bullets to reload is. The heavier 8MM bullets have a slight ballistic coefficient advantage for long range shooting and wind bucking ability. I have taken game with both cartridges and I can't tell the difference between the two. If buying store ammo is important I would go with the 06 but if you reload for the 8MM it will do just as well. They are both great cartridges.

 

Im glad to see some people besides myself actually know how to use iron sights and use them,I tell everyone dont buy a rifle without iron sights-if you break the scope in the woods your hunt is over if you dont have sights.And yet I see people buying rifles everyday without sights-When will they learn

 

@Notrighty speaks truth.

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You should go to the introductions section and tell us about yourself. Also look at the date on the thread before responding. It’s 9 years old.

 

This 1952 Husqvarna 640 8mm. has just about shot m.o.a. using some very good M75 196 gr. Yugo surplus.