89/36 Mauser 7.65x53 Belgian

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Pecan, Mar 27, 2013.

  1. Pecan

    Pecan New Member

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    Just inherited this rifle. It is in fine shape and all original. All numbers match. Built by Manufacture d'armes de'Etat in Belgium in the 30's

    My problem is I just purchased ammo for it. It is 7.65 x 53 argentine. All my sources say that it is the correct caliber. No markings on rifle regarding caliber. this rifle dose not fire. Just click. No impact by firing pin. I was able to fit the round on the bolt to chamber and get it to fire but the casing is now stuck in chamber.

    I am at a loss, what is my issue?
     
  2. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    Pictures..............I would say it is probably chambered in 7.92x57, stick a rod down the barrel & tap the case out. Stick a 7.65x53 in the bore & tell me what it does, does it disappear or what ?
     
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  3. Pecan

    Pecan New Member

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    Here area few picks, I havn't been able to extract casing yet to determine the fit of the round. Is there any indication on this rifle that could determine the caliber? I did some more research and was unable to find anything about this rifle by this maufacturer with other than 7.65x53. Do you know of a web site that I can look into. Thanks I appreciate your help.
     

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  4. Pecan

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    Additional pic
     

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  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Get thee to a gunsmith! Over the years, many a military firearm has changed caliber. The only way to tell for CERTAIN is to make and measure a chamber casting.

    It is a simple process- the rifle is placed muzzle down, the bore plugged with a few patches just in front of the chamber, and a product called Cerro-Safe is melted (very low temp stuff) poured into the chamber, let set up, pop it out and measure with a micrometer.

    Cerro-safe is damned near unique in that when it cools, it shrinks enough to remove, but THEN returns to original dimensions. Call around for a smith that will make a chamber casting for you.

    DO NOT SHOOT ANYTHING ELSE UNTIL YOU KNOW THE CALIBER. It is possible to have very bad headspace, and to do damage to rifle, self and innocent bystanders.
     
  7. Pecan

    Pecan New Member

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    Thank you c3shooter that is good advice. That is what I will do.
     
  8. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    c3 is right take it to a good smith...............
     
  9. Pecan

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    UPDATE
    Just picked up rifle from gunsmith and he found it was rechambered in 30.06
    Unfortunately the magazine does not accept that cartridge making it a single shot bolt action.
    I imagine the value decrease drastically