7mm~08 vs. 308

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by 95sniper, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. 95sniper

    95sniper New Member

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    What are the differences? Which do you prefer for long distance shooting? I have heard that the 7mm~08 shoots flatter but is not as versatile as the 308. Looking for your opinions.
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i have both. if you reload, the possibilities for both are huge to say the least. IMO for target shooting the 7mm-08 has a slight edge due to it's ballistics. here is some information pulled from Hornady's website. ballistics comparison between the two.

    7mm-08 using a 139 gr. SST bullet.
    MV/ME 2950/2686 using a 200 yard zero

    100 yrds. +1.50" 200 yrds. 0.00 300 yrds. -6.80 400 yrds. -19.70 500 yrds. -39.60

    308 Win. using a 150 gr. SST bullet.
    MV/ME 2820/2648 using a 200 yard zero
    100 yrds. +1.50" 200 yrds. 0.00 300 yrds. -7.90 400 yrds. -23.10 500 yrds. -47.00

    very close but just a slight edge with the 7mm-08. now reloading, there are many more options and variables to consider as well. both my 7mm-08 and my 308 are Marlin XS7's and both are used for target shooting. but hunting uses, they are pretty close as to be interchangeable.
     

  3. Muliemaster

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    Good info axxe but if you dont reload the 308 needs to be your choice, 7mm-08 is not on every ammo shelf. Where the 308 is very common.
     
  4. 95sniper

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    Thanks for the info I think I'm going to go with the 7mm~08 then. I reload so I dont have to worry about finding ammo in stores.
     
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    The 7mm 08 is softer on the shoulder and 7mm has a higher BC.

    The 6.5 family is very popular in Europe and a 1,000 yd tgt rifle that doesn't kick as hard as a 308. Becoming more popular in US.
     
  7. 95sniper

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  8. msup752

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    BC= ballistic coefficient.
     
  9. 95sniper

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    Thats what I thought, wanted to confirm.
     
  10. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    very true Mulie. if a person reloaded, and it were to make a choice i would suggest the 7mm-08. if they didn't reload the 308 would have the advantage of better factory ammo selection.

    i thought that 95Sniper reloaded, was the reason i didn't really specify that choice. i own, shoot and reload both myself. personally i like both of mine.
     
  11. Txhillbilly

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    Any of the calibers listed are good choices,and perform well at either shooting targets or hunting.
    I really like shooting the 260 Remington,while factory ammo can be hard to find and expensive,Handloading for it is the best bet. I make all my 260 brass by resizing 243 Winchester brass. The ballistics on the 6.5mm bullets are really good. I also just built a 6.5 Creedmoor,the case is a little shorter than the 260 Remington,but it uses the same powder charges as the 260,and you can seat the longer match style bullets without loosing the ability to use the rifles magazine because of an overall length being too long to fit.
    The 7mm-08 is a great cartridge,and I enjoy shooting mine. I'm still trying to find the perfect load for it,so far it's been picky about bullet weights. It seems to like bullets in the 150-160 gr range.
    My 308 is a great gun,it shoots just about anything I load for it from 155gr-210gr.

    Like Axxe said,if you don't reload,either the 308 or 7mm-08 will be the best choice.Ammo is available almost every place that sells ammo usually.
     
  12. ChicagoJoe

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    What Mulie said. I bought a 7MM-08 only to learn that Rem CoreLokt cost $29.99/box (if it was even in stock) while CoreLokt for my old 30-06 cost just $19.99/box. I do not reload, so my next rifle was a .308 for which ammo is relatively inexpensive - $19.99 full retail and as low as $14.99 on sale - and there is a plethora of choices.

    Short answer: If you reload, consider the 7mm-08. If you do not reload, go with the .308.
     
  13. kingrider

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    Can't say enough about the 7mm-08 in hunting applications. It is my go to caliber for whitetails and black bear. I have taken game from 40 to 400+ yards with it.
     
  14. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    the 7mm-08 is an awesome cartridge and one of my favorites for target shooting. also is one fine hunting cartridge as well if you need good knockdown poweer without punishing recoil and has excellent accuracy.
     
  15. 95sniper

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    How far out have you shot your 7mm-08?
     
  16. greydog

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    I built a 7mm-08 for long range competition back in about 1979. It worked fairly well but no better than a 308. The only advantage was that recoil was slightly less with bullets of equivalent sectional density.
    Comparisons of the two are often skewed. In the the one quoted in this thread, hitting 2950 with a 139-140 grain bullet is a HOT load. Hitting 2820 with a 150 in the 308 is not.
    Long range bullets are usually 162's in the 7mm (about 2700 in the 7mm-08) and 155's or 175's in the 308 (about 2900 and 2700 respectively). With these commonly used bullets the 7mm-08 would have a slight advantage except for one thing; 308's shoot better! &'s can shoot very well but it is truly difficult to get one to reliably perform at under one half minute. This is not difficult with a 308. In the end, flat shooting and slightly improved wind bucking doesn't trump accuracy.
    Even knowing this I still occasionally make up a seven hoping for the best but I win way more with the 308 (Even better is the 6BR but that's another story. GD
     
  17. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    a few times i have been able to get out to two hundred yards and got very good groups. generaly when i shoot here at the house working up loads, my backyard range is only one hundred yards in length. i have to drive about 35 miles to shoot at the range my LGS owns that i am a member of. so i don't go as often as i would like.

    Greydog, those results are not skewed. they were taken directly from Hornady's website. please reference it for yourself. the 7mm-08 load is hot and the 308 load isn't? both are factory loaded ammo using the same type of bullets. how do you know whether one is hot and one isn't?
     
  18. 95sniper

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    How far out would you say its good for? I like the 308 a little more because of ammo availability, but thats no issue if its more accurate.
     
  19. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    for hunting many say between 300-400 yrds is about the limit. for target shooting, i say push it as far as you can! IMO, i think the 7mm-08 has a slight edge. you can always load heavier bullets than what's available as factory loaded ammo.
     
  20. 95sniper

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    I wouldn't push it that far for hunting really, but I've heard that its a deer stopper. So a heavier bullet would make it more accurate?