7.65x53 Argentine Mauser 1891

I hope it is in the US already. Mausers are considered war weapons, which are illegal to bring into the country for us normal civilians. I asked about bringing a German Mauser to the states. I was told no. I know someone who had to leave his M1 in Germany. You can bring an M1 or AR15 to Germany and take back to states, but you need prove you purchased the weapon in the states. i.e a bill of sale. Key word is purchased. This is not a German law, it is US law.

Well yeah...Importing ANY firearm into the US requires an importers licence.

True, but not if it is your personal weapons. I have brought handguns to the states with me and I did not need importers license. I filled out paperwork, but not for an import license.

Well, thanks for answering my questions about the 1891 Argentine Mauser. If someone else wants to chime in on something totally off the subject, I guess it is ok to do so.
ct

cottontop said:

I am thinking about getting a 7.65x53 Argentine 1891 to add to my collection. I already have a 1909. Anyone have one? What are your thoughts, experiences, etc. Are they easy to reload? Do you make brass from '06 brass? etc.

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Do you make brass from '06 brass? YES................

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303tom said:

Do you make brass from '06 brass? YES................

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Thanks for your response Tom. I am planning on making brass from '06 too. I will get an RCBS form and trim die, run the 06 brass through it, trim off the excess, resize through the 7.65x53 dies and usable brass should be the result. Any more info you can give on your experiences with the 91 Argentine would be appreciated.
ct

I have an Argentine mauser 1891 that I recently purchased at a pawn shop...Prvi and norma make ammo for it...locating brass can be a problem...like stated I bought 40 rounds of Norma and 60 rounds of Prvi so I would have brass to reload....funny the 40 rounds of loaded Norma was about the same price as just the unloaded Norma brass..go figure

Great rifle and round Cotton. Finding one still in original configuration and still in 7.65x53 would be awesome. Great round for anything that walks in the U.S. w/ the exception of great bear. Your really diggin' the old classics, nice.

These are really neat rifles and I've owned a couple. All were made before 1898 so they are considered antiques and you can buy one without any paperwork. They are superbly built by either Mauser or Ludwig Loewe and routinely show up at the larger gun shows like Tulsa and Louieville. Finding one without a ground crest can be a challenge. The last one I had I did shoot and it was very accurate. Good luck in your search.

Can`t hardly make em cheaper than this............
http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=24&newcategorydimensionid=9887

I used to make 7.65x53 out of 8x57 brass back when there was no loaded ammunition available.

These are historic rifles, they are also the product of the old-world master machinist from the beginning of the Mauser super dynasty. These rifles are a great pleasure to shoot. They are accurate and reliable, and easy on the eyes. They can be found in really good condition.
You won't get ammo at Wal-mart or Academy, but it is not hard to find on-line.

Historic rifle, historic thread- from 2013.

Chainfire said:

These are historic rifles, they are also the product of the old-world master machinist from the beginning of the Mauser super dynasty. These rifles are a great pleasure to shoot. They are accurate and reliable, and easy on the eyes. They can be found in really good condition.
You won't get ammo at Wal-mart or Academy, but it is not hard to find on-line.

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You can get it from Midway for less than 25 bucks a box !.....
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/7...gentine-mauser-180-grain-soft-point-box-of-20

Alaska Ammo is located at 2840-B Commercial Drive, Anchorage, AK 99501

7.65x53 Argentine - Hornady 150gr SP Interbond $34.95 a box

7.65x53 Argentine - PPU 174grFMJ. $25.99

7.65x53 Argentine - PPU 180gr SP. $25.99

I picked up some the 180gr sp.

I figured since back before 1905 and spitzer ullets they used 200gr round nose in them.
So I figured stick with as close to the original loading as you can.

I had one back in the 1960's , it was a nice well made rifle. They were cheap along with the surplus 7x57 Spanish Mausers, they sold for $19.95 . In High School and these were all we could afford , cut down the military stock and it was our deer / hog hunting rifle.
The 98 Mausers were the desired ones , bought and customized into nice sporters. These sold for $30 to $40 ...out of our price range !
Never had any problems getting 7.65 x 53 ammo or brass , Norma and Prvi Partizan still offer brass and loaded ammo for it. Check Midway USA .
Reloads just like any other bottle neck, rimless rifle round... A two die set , 30 cal bullets and some H4895 powder and you were off to the races. the 7.65 X 53 is a lot like reloading the 308 Winchester. We never had to make any brass , just bought Norma brass and used it.
Gary

Ah one thing to bear in mind those 1891's wont stand up to hopping them up to .308 Winchester energy levels, when reloading for the 1891 Argentine mauser Think of it as a .303 British.
Id hate to misslead a fellow into thinking these old war horses will stand up to such high energy rounds as the 7.62 Nato or .308 winchester.
When you stand the 7.65 X53 Mauser case next to a 7.62x51 you would think OH Yeah! Look how much more the case is longer than a .308Winchester, I bet we sure can stoke this puppy up!
Tap the breaks there and do some research on this critter, use published reloading data specificly for the 1891 and not for the 1909 Arg mauser!
They are a beautiful old gun made in a age well before the Titanic set sail.
Itd be a damn shame to blow up one just because of some bad/misleading forum advise.

Rex in OTZ said:

Ah one thing to bear in mind those 1891's wont stand up to hopping them up to .308 Winchester energy levels, when reloading for the 1891 Argentine mauser Think of it as a .303 British.
Id hate to misslead a fellow into thinking these old war horses will stand up to such high energy rounds as the 7.62 Nato or .308 winchester.
When you stand the 7.65 X53 Mauser case next to a 7.62x51 you would think OH Yeah! Look how much more the case is longer than a .308Winchester, I bet we sure can stoke this puppy up!
Tap the breaks there and do some research on this critter, use published reloading data specificly for the 1891 and not for the 1909 Arg mauser!
They are a beautiful old gun made in a age well before the Titanic set sail.
Itd be a damn shame to blow up one just because of some bad/misleading forum advise.

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Anybody who goes off willy nilly building experimental nuclear loads for antique rifles get what they get. It is a self correcting problem.

The original loadings for these old war horses are sufficient for all practical purposes.

Chainfire said:

The original loadings for these old war horses are sufficient for all practical purposes.

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You Betcha, Red Ryder! Unless one is hunting large, dangerous game at close range, a 174 grain 2440 fps .310 or .311 bullet will handle anything on the North American Continent.

Great cartridge even in original loadings. The Model 54 Winchester was offered in the chambering back in pre-historic days.