6.8SPC and 458 SOCOM

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by Txhillbilly, Jan 9, 2010.

  1. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    Does anyone shoot either of these? I'm interested in them,but just don't know if I want to dish out the cash on another upper.
    I really like the 458 SOCOM but ammo,and brass are hard to find right now.
     

  2. slowryde45

    slowryde45 New Member

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    I have both, love both. I know...that tells you a lot right? The 6.8SPC was hoped to be the great fix-all, replace-all round for the 5.56. But the jury is still out on that, as well as on the 6.5 Grendel. It packs almost the power of a .308, but at weight more like a 5.56, so definitely a plus there. Where it seems to lack a little bit of luster is in long range performance. But I've shot mine out to 4-500 yards with good results. No, I don't think you'll be competing in any 1000yd matches, but it wasn't designed for that. Go here for more info:

    Silver State Armory manufactures and sells 6.8 SPC Ammunition and custom brass cases, 5.56 ammo, 7.62x51 ammo

    6.8SPC FAQ

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    The .458SOCOM, basically came out of the same requests. SpecOps folks wanted something that was going to give better performance for QCB out to say 2-300yds. 250-600gr projectiles flying at up to 2000 fps, will definitely get something's attention. Lots of folks using them for boar, deer, elk, etc. giving performance very similar to a .45-70 and capable of using std .223 magazines. Check out this site for more info:

    Teppo Jutsu : Advanced Firearms Applications

    The 458 SOCOM

    458 SOCOM Ammunition

    Slo
     
  3. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    Thanks Slow,I was just thinking that both would be good for deer & hogs,with the 458 being the best for the hogs. My thought about them was in the 200-300 yrd range.

    What is the recoil of the 458 like? I figured it would be about like a 12ga shotgun. Do you have to run a heavier buffer spring with it?

    Thanks for the ammo link,Cane.
     
  4. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Yea it uses the same mags but a 30 round 5.56 mag will only hold 10 rounds of 458. Too big a real estate gap to keep the troops supplied. I don't see this round replacing the 5.56 NATO.

    Here's some videos for the 458, it would be an arm-full on auto! A great hog round though!!!
     
  5. slowryde45

    slowryde45 New Member

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    Yep, about the same as shooting 12Ga slugs, nothing you can't handle. Heck, my wife has shot mine and doesn't flinch. The 6.8SPC is just a little bit more on the recoil than the 5.56, but less than a .243. If you order a complete .458 Socom upper assembly from RRA, they do come with a couple springs, at least mine did. They are a bit heavier than your normal spring, makes sense, and one is for a collapsible stock, the other fits an A2 stock.

    Not exactly a tack driver (about 1.5 to 1.75 MOA - but more than enough for that type of hunting), but with that kind of performance, I think I'd die from shock if I knew that heavy of a round was coming at me :eek: :D

    I'm definitely going to have to invest in reloading gear again, as soon as I get done with re-training and get re-employed to be able to afford this darn hobby. I already have one gun (.338 Lapua Mag) that cost over $4 a round. The .458 Socom is in the same range.:( So it definitely pays to reload your own.

    Slo
     
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