6.5 MM Carcano

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by therewolf, Aug 13, 2012.

  1. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    Yes, the infamous "Lee Harvey Oswald " gun.

    Apparently, Mannlicher-Carcano is somewhat of a misnomer

    for this dubious Italian carbine.

    Mine was built in 1908, and has matching serial #s.

    My acquisition of the rifle was a comedy of errors from

    the get-go. First it sat in my LGS's safe for a few months,

    then I took it home, but other projects loomed large.

    When I finally got around to procuring ammo, about six

    months later, I realized, after it made the trip out to

    the range with me, that it wouldn't load ammo without

    an en-bloc clip. A couple more months passed, while I

    dealt with more pressing matters, at which point I

    procured some clips with the assistance of Matt from

    Milsurp dott comm. (TYVM)

    Finally, with ammo, clips(yes, CLIPS), and rifle in hand, I

    went to the range, and actually shot the rifle.

    Now, a word about the ammo. The projectile is shaped

    somewhat like the probe on a thermocouple, which protrudes

    from the cartridge about an inch. This made fast loading

    extremely impractical. Am I the only one who finds cycling ammo

    through this rifle to be a problematic proposition?

    Last but not least, the clip ejection port, now, maybe there's a good

    reason, of which I'm unaware, to introduce soil into a loading mechanism,

    so I'm keeping an open mind on this, but

    Mussolini's troops actually marched into battle with this gun? Really?
     
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  2. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    Actually the 6.5x52mm Mannlicher-Carcano is the round, for which the Carcano 1891 rifle was built for, O yes the rifle was built for the round, but that`s the Italians for ya............
     

  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    (Giggle) On a Q&A board I serve on, one questioner wanted to know why the Italians marked rifles for fat soldiers (Fabrico Armi, Terni FAT)

    As if the rifle was not complicated enough, IIRC, those had gain twist rifling. Starts off at one rate of twist, and increases as you go up the barrel.
     
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  4. jpattersonnh

    jpattersonnh Active Member

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    It was known by allied troops as the rifle that never killed anyone.
     
  5. Mauser_man

    Mauser_man New Member

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    I have one. Bought it on a whim. My 11 year old daughter LOVES that rifle. I like the en bloc clip. I have taken several deer with it. Great little rifle. Too bad they don't get more respect...The Rodney dangerfield of rifles!:D
     
  6. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    I've found mine uninspiring to shoot, although it

    is an interesting conversation starter.

    Someday I may try making some brass

    from used 30.06 rounds...
     
  7. donthav1

    donthav1 Active Member

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    i just sold mine a couple months ago, it was a sportered one i bought it from a friend who needed cash. i only shot it a couple times, had no real attachment or interest in it so i got rid of it.

    it came with some modern soft point ammo & some surplus stuff. yeah i agree the surplus looks a bit......cartoonish may be the word i'm looking for?

    i apparently hadn't cleaned mine good enough before my first outing with it, because the clip didn't fall out the bottom. it got stuck in there & i couldn't get it out till i got home
     
  8. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    I fired it once, still waiting to finish off the brass

    in the first box. I oil it every now and then.

    It's a great conversation piece.
     
  9. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    The nice thing about Italian Military rifles, they were only dropped once.:eek:
     
  10. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    Yeah, but some clown carved his initials in mine.

    And the dirt you pick up thru the open clip

    ejection port in the bottom of the mag is

    enough to keep any poor soldier in the field

    busy, regardless of how many times it's been dropped.:cool:
     
  11. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Humm? Lee Harvey bought his Italian Mil-Surp for $18 bucks with a 3/4" weaver scope. Klien's of Chicago sold these by the tons in the 1950s and early 1960s. The rifles were of very poor quality and the little scopes were like looking at the world thru a coke bottle. I don't know who shot JFK but he damn sure was not using an Italian carbine.:confused:
     
  12. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    Well, while it takes me about 3 minutes to cycle,

    much less aim and shoot, two rounds through my

    Carcano, I'm sure the Warren Commission knew exactly

    what it was talking about, and we should trust our

    government, because they would never lie to us.:cool:
     
  13. cottontop

    cottontop Guest

    I had one back in my teens. It was pleasant to shoot and very accurate with Norma factory loads. Wish I still had it.
    I don't know if Oswald killed Kennedy or not, but I saw a documentary once on the military channel where a guy was able to get off 3 shots very accurately and very quickly with a 6.5 Carcano.
    ct
     
  14. TheDesertFox

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    I've got a 91/24 Carcano. Got it $150 at a gunshow. It can't shoot worth a crap, but it's a piece of history none the less. What's really cool is that it was made in 1924 and it has an early serial #. It also has what appears to be tally marks on the right side of the stock.
     
  15. zaitsev44

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    Ha those tally marks must be from how many times the soldier missed. Haha just kidding. I respect the Carcano and I'm hoping to get one that isn't sporterized or beat beyond use, but they're hard to find in my area.
     
  16. therewolf

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    The stock on my Carcano looks like it was dragged

    from the Turkish border to Moscow behind a

    German tank during Operation Barbarossa.

    Seriously, how does a rifle entrusted to an

    infantry soldier, which he's caring for to fight a

    war and protect his life, get so banged up,

    dirty, and greasy?:(