5th strongest ccw state

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by JonM, May 25, 2011.

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  1. May 25, 2011 #1
    JonM

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    if this passes wisconsin will be #5 in the country!! the republicans basically said fk it and combined both the permit and constitutional carry bills!!!

    read more:
    Panel approves concealed carry law - TODAY'S TMJ4

     
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  3. May 25, 2011 #2
    orangello

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    Excellent progress!
     
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  5. May 25, 2011 #3
    WannaGator

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    Wow.

    I plan on getting a CCW in OH.
     
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  6. May 25, 2011 #4
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    WOOT, kinda like Florida without the sunshine! :D:D:D:D
     
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  7. May 25, 2011 #5
    JonM

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    i really want this version to pass its a strong start giving us constitutional carry open carry and a permit system.

    ill be getting a permit and carrying my colt series 70 outside the pants but under my shirt!! dont have to worry about printing or accidentally showing the gun. im really hoping this goes through

    permit holders wont have to worry about federal gun free school zones while non permit peeps will. i believe it gives law enforcement stronger penalties for goblins on the naughty list for possession. meaning hard time for them. which in my opinion is about damn time.
     
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  8. Jun 14, 2011 #6
    JonM

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    *UPDATE*

    JUST MOMENTS AGO WISCONSIN STATE SENATE PASSED A CONCEAL CARRY BILL!!!!

    no details yet on what is actually in the bill or if any ammendments were mad to sb93
     
    JonM, Jun 14, 2011
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  9. Jun 14, 2011 #7
    JonM

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    6 democrats including several super libs like lena taylor voted aye on the bill!! taylor makes pelosi look like a reasonable moderate


    Senate passes concealed-carry bill - JSOnline

    this is particularly HUGE for gun owners:

    this is perfect poetic justice i want to imply kiss the person that put this in!!

    this means that businesses and property owners who post "please rob, rape and murder me signs" are legally responsible for the safety and well being of their patrons if they prohibit firearms!!!!
     
    JonM, Jun 14, 2011
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  10. Jun 16, 2011 #8
    twobadazbrothers

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    Now only if Illinois could learn from its neighbors we would be all good
     
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  11. Jun 16, 2011 #9
    Leatherneck1775

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    My wife told me the assembly votes on Tuesday. Can't freaken wait!
     
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  12. Jun 16, 2011 #10
    Cory2

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    Wow thats pretty awesome! And here I thought Tennessee had some pretty good gun laws (and by that I mean a lack of, of course).

    Maybe Wisconsin will be moved to the correct side of the list if this passes.
    Handgun Carry Permit Reciprocity Information

    I wish ya'll luck!
     
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  13. Jun 16, 2011 #11
    Dillinger

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    That is most cool, but your post got me wondering.

    What are the other four states?

    Texas?
    Tennessee?
    Georgia?
    Nevada?

    :confused::confused:
     
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  14. Jun 16, 2011 #12
    Cory2

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    I wondered the same thing, I doubt tennessee is in the top 5 because you just cant carry a gun here without a permit. But we are shall issue, so who knows.... Maybe op knows!!! tell us!
     
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  15. Jun 16, 2011 #13
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  16. Jun 16, 2011 #14
    JonM

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    according to the local radio talk show host vicki mckenna the revised sb93 bill that will be up in the assembly as ammended by the senate if passed with no changes will be the second strongest ccw/oc law in effect due mainly to the responsibility of a property owner who posts a no carry sign being legally at risk if a goblin shoots the place up.

    it also greatly neuters the idiotic gfsz crap. with almost no exempt areas for permit holders and grants permited folks who oc the same protections as ccw permit holders.

    issuance of a permit costs are pretty cheap being 5 years at 35$ plus 13$back ground check. the permit will serve as your bg check for future handgun purchases in wis. so if you buy a lot of guns it will actually save money on the 4th handgun purchase in 5 years.

    it will also allow for reciprocity with other states that have similiar or more stringent permit requirments.

    over all this new bill is actually waaay better than the defunct constitutional carry bill i first posted about.

    constitutional oc still applies but with out a permit oc people who choose not to get a permit have to deal with numerous exempt areas and dont have recourse in a posted area if something occurs.
     
    JonM, Jun 16, 2011
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  17. Jun 17, 2011 #15
    Marthor

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    Best 5:
    Wisconsin, Alaska, Vermont, Arizona, and Wyoming


    Worst 5:
    DC, Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey and California
     
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  18. Jun 17, 2011 #16
    fixxer

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    Where is this information coming from? I'm lost here. I wanna play "my state vs yours" too and I've been trying to find out what states are ranked what since this thread was posted. Anyone got a ratings source? BTW, KS is not too shabby when it comes to CCW and firearms friendliness. We just passed a statute that goes into effect July 1st that allows us to conceal carry on state owned hunting/camping property. I wonder if that will effect our ratings... You would be shocked how many places restrict this and open carry of non-shoulderable firearms on any type of state owned property. We'll also be allowed to use suppressors while hunting if we feel like it ;) No more ringing ears vs. earplugs problem when dispatching furry critters (for those of us who can pass the Federal NFA check) :) Needless to say, the threaded barrels on my FNP-45 and my Rem 700 AAC SD weren't going to be naked for very long to begin with. The rest is just gravy.
     
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  19. Jun 17, 2011 #17
    Marthor

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    Wisconsin, Alaska, Vermont, Arizona, and Wyoming are the only 5 states with no restictions. Anyone can carry without even getting a permit!

    DC, Hawaii, Illinois and New Jersey are "no-Issue" to the general citizen. You can't get a carry permit if you're just a regular citizen.

    The only position that could be "debated" is California. Many California counties have "no issue" policies and CA has many other restrictions.

    Maryland & Massachusetts could debate with CA to join the bottom five. I guess someone that's trying to be picky could also argue that DC isn't a state.

    Info is from my "Traveler's guide to firearms laws in the 50 states" that I got off Amazon and also the wiki link posted above by Sonnypie. :cool:
     
    Marthor, Jun 17, 2011
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  20. Jun 17, 2011 #18
    Missouribound

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    No restrictions?

    I'm all for Wisconsin joining the ranks of a ccw allowed state. Don't hold your breath waiting for Illinois though, I lived there most of my life and I know the BS there and I just don't see it happening. But as far as no restrictions? That's just not right. Training and a permit should be the LEAST required. I'm sure that everyone here knows at least one person that absolutely shouldn't be allowed to carry. Without some kind of litmus test to carry it takes away the the meaning of the privelige. Here in Missouri there is training and of course the required background checks. I think that knowing that the guy or gal next to me with a concealed weapon has completed SOME sort of qualification is a little bit reassuring, rather than saying "here's your gun, don't shoot yourself" as the competency check.
    Just my opinion.......
     
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  21. Jun 17, 2011 #19
    camiller

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    Using the word privilege (misspelled or not) to describe a right, takes away from the meaning of the concept of rights.
     
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  22. Jun 17, 2011 #20
    Missouribound

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    Thanks "teach" for the spelling correction. The right to bear arms is a right, no question about it. Concealed carry is a privilege you must rightly earn / deserve not by mere existence but through deserved qualification.
     
    Missouribound, Jun 17, 2011
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