460 Rowland

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by JonM, Feb 4, 2011.

  1. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    after making some moolah on guns i didnt want anymore i got money to get my 460 rowland kit. the question i got is: is the compensator removable for cleaning or replacing the bushing if it breaks??
     
  2. parinoid54

    parinoid54 New Member

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    When I spoke with the lady at Clark Custom (mostly about their guide rod assembly) she told me that the comp is not "user" removeable, being torqued on the the barrel. A gunsmith, like them, is a different story. I wish I could remember her name as she has a video of her shooting the 460. Renee rings a bell.
     

  3. JonM

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    thanks. guess it will have to be serviced by them if something goes wonky
     
  4. parinoid54

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    I should have added that my inquest about their screw-in guide rod is that I wanted to use a different style assembly, something like a Menck, or Sprinco; which is where she brought up the comp not being something that can be removed by a back yard mechanic to disassemble the gun. Yeah, she did say anyone with a cresent wrench can force it off, but their torque specs are their own design, and removing it changes the gripping ability of the threads to return to original specs - something that will void any liability of theirs if your comp goes downrange (or all over the place) with one of your rounds. If I was running a nitrofuel dragster, I would not have Jiffy Lube change my oil.:D
     
  5. JonM

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    well i dont think it would catostrophic fail. but it would definately loosen itself as you shot it due to the rotational forces of the gases hitting the compnsator.

    i was mainly curious as to how it was attached not that its going to affect my decision. mainly jus idle curiosity. i always try to get as good an understanding of my firearms as possible so i can tell when something is about to go terribly wrong and prevent it.
     
  6. NGIB

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    Folks it's a well engineered kit and does exactly what it's designed to do - give you .44 Magnum ballistics from a 5" 1911. Due to the spring weight (24# for carbon steel), it's a tad of a challenge to assemble and the steps vary from regular 1911 assembly - but it's not difficult to put in or take out.

    NO CHANGES are made to your base gun so switching back & forth is a simple matter and I've done so a couple of times. Shooting one is really amazing as the compensator is so effective it feels like shooting a standard 1911 with self-defense ammo. It's actually a little disappointing to shoot as you feel it should kick like a .44 Magnum but it doesn't...
     
  7. JonM

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    main point of curiosity on my part is i intend to put it on my springfield 1911A-1 and would like to parkerize the compensator to match the gun.
     
  8. canebrake

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    Yea, send it back to Renee Tyson at Clark Custom Guns and have her make it right. Tell her canebrake sent you!

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    Feel free to contact me with any questions or problems.

    Renee Tyson
    Clark Custom Guns, Inc.
    Toll Free 888 458 4126
    M-F 8 am - 4 pm CST
     
  9. canebrake

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    It amazes me (as an engineer) why people buying an engineered assembly, the CCG 460 Rowland kit in this case, think they can make it better than what the original design/develop/test engineers have done?

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  10. canebrake

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    + 1 Dave and why did you divulge us 460 owners' secret that the gun shoots like a standard 5" Government on a +P diet!

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  11. canebrake

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    Why? Get the blue kit and live with it????
     
  12. JonM

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    that would be aweful damn hard. and i dont wanna buy a colt xse to match the compensator :/

    less it works with my series 70...
     
  13. parinoid54

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    OH come on Cane! I did what any curious pervert would do. I called the experts for answers to some questions; not to redesign what is far beyond my understanding. I have parts on hand and wanted to know if they would work. Renee, the kind heart, explained why I am at the bottom of the gene pool and I accepted my inadequitcies (sic). No need to kick this jack ass. At least I try to learn!
     
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  14. canebrake

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    I guess that was kinda heavy.

    Sorry......................but..........

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  15. NGIB

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    My bad sir. I was just trying to get folks to understand that this is REALLY a well designed upgrade and it don't need no home engineering...
     
  16. spittinfire

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    Hey jonm, why not get the stainless comp?
     
  17. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Okay, now I am interested in the .460 Rowland.

    Does it really offer an advantage over the 10mm on the 1911 platform?
     
  18. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    You guys are killing me.....Does everyone here need a 460? No matter, mine will be the coolest, bastardized excuse for a 1911 you have ever seen.
     
  19. JonM

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    Because I don't like stainless. I'm more a fan of the military look parkerize is my favorite finish. I'm also not a fan of duotone looks.
     
  20. JonM

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    Yes cheaper ammo if you make your own wider selection of. 45 cal bullets. Recoil less than 10mm with more power. Basically a 44mag in a 1911. 45acp dies you should already have reloads 460. The reason I never lookedat it was because I thought it was some oddball 46cal bullet. Its got a deceptive name.