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Next weekend I'm going hunting for the first time this season. (I know I'm getting a late start) we have ben having a lot of hog problems. Normally I would just use my 30-06. But sometimes when putting up a stand, throwing out corn (not to hunt over of corse) it gets left in the truck.
Also at night when leaving the stand there have ben a few cougars sighted. And working a bolt if I miss the first time might not be a option.
But I do always have my XD .45 and I don't have to work a bolt on it. At first I was thanking just any old fmj would work. But now I'm wondering if there is anything better. So what do y'all thank would be good to use in this situation?
 

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Cougars are not that tough. A .22 mag is fine (if you are hunting THEM). A .45 should be adequate if they are hunting YOU.

Hogs on the other hand ARE tough. A .45 will kill one, but only with a well placed shot and some luck. 10mm or .460 Rowland for an auto loading pistol.
 

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The 45 ACP is a poor choice for shooting hogs. I have seen a few hogs shot with them,and very few even slow down or go down after being shot with that caliber.
Hollow points don't penetrate enough,FMJ's just make a small hole through them and unless it's a very good shot,it will just wound them. Lead bullets are the best choice,but most are too slow to do the damage needed to down the animal.
A 40 S&W will do a much better job than the 45 ACP. If I use a pistol,it is almost always my 44 Magnum.It always works on them!
 

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The problem is at the moment .45 is my only choice. So I guess I'm going to go with some buffalo bore 230 +p fmj.
 

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I would not choose to use a .45 for hogs.

If i had to, I'd use ball ammo for increased penetration.

BTW if you kill a cougar, they're far better tasting than venison.:)
 

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locutus said:
I would not choose to use a .45 for hogs.

If i had to, I'd use ball ammo for increased penetration.

BTW if you kill a cougar, they're far better tasting than venison.:)
I agree .45=bad idea. But it's a last resort thing. I am not intently hunting hogs with a .45acp. I knew it was not a good choice. Just when I'm at the hunting camp working I won't to have a side arm just in case my 30-06 is in the truck. At the moment .380 and .45acp is my only choices. I would use a rock before the .380. I am planing on getting the .460 conversion for my XD just for this reason. Just don't have the money right now.

So ball ammo. Any specific kind?
 

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Just my opinion, but I think you'd be better off spending the money on a good used .357 magnum.:)
 

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Just my opinion, but I think you'd be better off spending the money on a good used .357 magnum.:)
I'm about to buy my wife a new one anyway.
 

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If I were hunting hogs from a stand, I'd use that .30-06 and take the scope off of it. Use it like it was intended. I sure as hell would not want to have to track down a hog wounded with a .45.
 

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W. C. Quantrill said:
If I were hunting hogs from a stand, I'd use that .30-06 and take the scope off of it. Use it like it was intended. I sure as hell would not want to have to track down a hog wounded with a .45.
I give up.
 

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A rancher friend shot a lion this week at very close range. He had dismounted his horse when a rather large Mtn. Lion advanced from a stand of Juniper. He engaged the cat with the first round from a .40 Caliber auto the lion contnued to advance. The lion fell stone dead at his feet with 5 rounds in his body. It is one thing to kill a treed cat quite another to take one in attack mode.:(
 

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Hogs are tough, and when injured can be mean. .45 is not a good idea. If you are going to hunt, hunt with something that can provide a clean kill, or don't hunt.
 

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If you are determined to hunt with a .45, then use a real .45, such as my Smith 25-5 in .45 Colt. It carries enough energy to get the job done. The ACP with only 400 or so foot pounds of energy is just not the critter to stop either a hog or a mountain cat if it has determination on its mind.
 

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i carry a 45 xdm as my hunting backup and feel safe enough in hog land with it. i use fmj loaded to max safe loads similar to buffalo bore. when shooting animals expansion isnt that important its always shot placement regardless of caliber. shoot a big cat off center with a 44 and he will keep coming just as much as an off center with a 45. hit him in the vitals with either and he will stop, hopefully before doing a lot of damage.

critters intent on eating you seldom stop in one shot regardless. 45acp is adequate for anything in north america backup wise short of a moose elk bear intent on stomping you flat.

there are 460 rowland conversions for xd/xdm which would be ideal for a defensive anti-animal gun. http://460rowland.com/springfield-armory-xd-45/

but just like self defense anywhere else, rule 1 is: have a gun. if all you got is less than ideal its better than a stick...
 

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JonM said:
i carry a 45 xdm as my hunting backup and feel safe enough in hog land with it. i use fmj loaded to max safe loads similar to buffalo bore. when shooting animals expansion isnt that important its always shot placement regardless of caliber. shoot a big cat off center with a 44 and he will keep coming just as much as an off center with a 45. hit him in the vitals with either and he will stop, hopefully before doing a lot of damage.

critters intent on eating you seldom stop in one shot regardless. 45acp is adequate for anything in north america backup wise short of a moose elk bear intent on stomping you flat.

there are 460 rowland conversions for xd/xdm which would be ideal for a defensive anti-animal gun. http://460rowland.com/springfield-armory-xd-45/

but just like self defense anywhere else, rule 1 is: have a gun. if all you got is less than ideal its better than a stick...
Thank you lord finally something I can work with lol. I'm glad you read the other post. I can always count on you. I have ben looking at the .460 conversion but I don't have the time or the money to get it. I was thanking the buffalo bore fmj +p. should I use the hard cast or just the regular fmj
 

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The problem is at the moment .45 is my only choice. So I guess I'm going to go with some buffalo bore 230 +p fmj.
If that is all you have use it, but as stated by many already it is not the 'weapon of choice' when it comes to hogs.:) Make the 06 do the job for you!;)
Have a good hunt!:cool:
 

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If you are going to go with the hot and heavy loads, then get an appropriate rated spring to absorb that recoil. You might want to go 18 or 19 pounds. I would just take the scope off the rifle and use the iron sights. BTW, where are you going to find both feral hogs and mountain kitties at the same time?
 
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