45ACP bullet selection

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by MaineMan, Jan 28, 2014.

  1. MaineMan

    MaineMan New Member

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    I like to carry HP AMMO when I think I will be using my 1911 around crowds. My thought process is that if it only gets 14" of penetration in ballistic gelatin than it wont impose as much a threat to others.

    When I'm at home, and in the field I carry either HCFN, or JFN in the mag. I was checking out test some years back, and you can more than double the penetration depending on the bullet.

    Please do not start this into a caliber debate! I am only interested in what others do that carry this cartridge, and maybe get some pointers as to the best ammo now a days.
     
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  2. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    The best hollow points are the ones your gun cycle reliably. 1911S are often finicky when it comes to hollows.

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  3. MaineMan

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    well so far so good, have tried several types and no problems so far...cant say that is even a concern for me...thinking along the lines of performance on live creatures
     
  4. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    I can't help you there. I carried a standard reliable defense ammo in my 1911, Nothing special. Don't remember what it was.

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  5. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    I carry 230 hp in whatever brand I can get except remington. I don't consider remington reliable enough for plinking much less self defense.

    My philosophy on defense is if I buy defensive ammo and it doesn't cycle in one of my carry guns I sell the gun. If a ccw gun is ammo sensitive I don't consider it reliable for carry.
     
  6. Mercator

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    Buffalo Bore ammo is among the hottest, their specialty. Mountainman is right that you will need to fire at least 100 rounds without a single stoppage (some say 200) to trust it for SD. That means your 1911 will take quite a beating (check the spring rating) ,and possibly your hand too. I have not fired a Buffalo Bore +P from my 1911's, because I've seen what a regular 230 gr can do - more than enough. But if you want the ultimate power you can trust, brace up for some testing.
     
  7. MaineMan

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    I have fired the Buffalo Bore 255gr and it did feel a little snappy to say the least, they recommend installing a stiffer spring I do recall. I do like their stuff though! So far I have tried almost every brand of HP and haven't had a malfunction so I'm not worried about that right now. I really have no worries, just looking for what others choose to carry for ammo.

    I have tried and carried about everything under the sun...but always seem to be looking for that edge :D
     
  8. GunRunner

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    I have drank the Kool aid and I carry RBCD ammo in my 1911. It's light and fast, there are some other claims but these are the two that I know are facts

    It's a 80gr limited range round. It travels at 2375 fps at 1002 flbs. All that speed and energy stopping in a Bad Guys body. Some say that they don't perform well in ballistic gel but I've never heard of ballistic gel committing a crime. So I take that with a grain of salt.

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  9. Overkill0084

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    Winchester Ranger T 230 JHP. Cycles reliably, groups well. Good enough for the Police, good enough for me. Bonus: It's not idiotically overpriced.
     
  10. jjones45

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    I have gone strictly to federal hst. I still like hornady critical duty as well. Both are offered in +p to I think


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  11. therewolf

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    Hornady makes some pretty nice hollow points.

    But not something you want to practice with a lot.

    Just make sure they will cycle through your gun.

    More on the "idiotically expensive" side, but what's

    your life worth?

    I shoot a lot of WWB FMJ at the range. If I happen to have FMJs

    in the pistol, at the time, it wouldn't give me pause, particularly.

    They have a fine track record with the armed forces.

    One trick to consider on ammo finicky pistols. Chamber the first

    round, a HP, and fill the rest of the mag with FMJs. In the event,

    God forbid, you have to defend yourself, your first shot will have

    a little additional stopping power, followed up by the easier feeding

    FMJs.
     
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  12. MaineMan

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    I have been going back in forth between Corbon, and hornady HP as of late, and like 185 - 200 loads with HP ammo.
    I kind of come to the conclusion that all the current HP rounds are pretty close to the same quality, with some having been designed to open up quickly and others penetrate deeper and not open as much or as quickly

    I think (and could be wrong) that a well constructed JFN bullet at 200 to 230gr is still one of the best choices for "stopping power" but you do risk extra penetration that is not really needed in most situations.
     
  13. freetobefree

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    What is RBCD? And is this a 45 Cal bullet?

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  14. therewolf

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    These actually sound good, for the intended purpose...
     
  15. GunRunner

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    Yes these are 45 acp rounds. They have different grain weights 80, 90, and 115. All of which have different speeds and so forth.

    It's the second one from the left. The far left is a federal hollow point, the silver one is a federal Guard Dog round. It's supposed to feed like a FMJ but expands on impact like a hollow point without the hole being clogged. The last is Magsafe ammo which is supposed to be for in home defense so as to not over perpetrate or pass though multiple barriers such as the make up of a bed room wall.

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  16. freetobefree

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    Thx gunrunner but what does RCBD stand for?

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  17. MaineMan

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    I think that if you are going to spit those light loads out you might as well buy a 9mm :D
     
  18. GunRunner

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    It's RBCD and I have no idea or even if it stands for anything.

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  19. freetobefree

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    Lol OK my bad... thx tho

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  20. GunRunner

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    I get what your saying as far as speeds but as far as standard calibers go, I prefer the entrance hole the larger 45 cal round makes.

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