I have an older model 30. 25 is getting on out there for SD use, but at that distance I get the occasional wanderer to the 7 ring. I was much more proficient with my 1911, but I sold it recently for a new cc unit.So I took my glock 30 sf, out today its been awhile, 25 yards out about a footXfoot. 7/10 hit pretty rapid fire and 1 touching bullseye the rest not to much farther. I wanna hear your stories and/or opinions!