45 ammo

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by foot2400, Feb 14, 2014.

  1. foot2400

    foot2400 New Member

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    I just bought my first 1911 in 45ca. Shopping around for hp ammo I notice there is 45 auto and 45 auto+p. what's the difference? Can I shoot both? I have just a standard colt government model.
     
  2. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    +P means it is loaded to pressures, higher than standard SAAMI specifcations. You may want to know what weight of recoil spring you are currently running, and try a slightly heavier spring to prevent excessive battering of the frame. I wouldn't shoot +P for target shooting, or out of a vintage WW2 era pistol.
     

  3. BtDoctur

    BtDoctur New Member

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    Congrats on the purchase and Yes, you can shoot both. Most stick with the 230 ball ammo
    and most reload to that spec or a bit lighter. You can handload from 700 fps to 1000 fps. Factory ball is around 800-850 fps. the hotter the load ,the more abuse the gun has to put up with..Plenty of videos on takedown and cleaning.
    +P in hollow point makes a good defense round.
     
  4. foot2400

    foot2400 New Member

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    Thanks for the info guys. One guy at my LGS said my gun could blow up. But the guy that sold me the gun also sold me some hollow point +p so I was confused. I'm just looking for a good ammo for carry.
     
  5. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    +P ammo should not make any .45 auto in good shape "blow up". It will result in wear on the gun being faster. You will not want to shoot a lot of it without going to a stiffer recoil spring.

    Some HP ammo IS +P. Usually marked on the box, and the cartridge case head. 45 +p.jpg



    Also going to cost a lot more than plain Jane 230 gr round nosed standard ammo. But as said, what makes it +P is that it is loaded to higher pressures than standard ammo.

    Most important characteristic of self defense ammo is that YOUR pistol feeds, fires, extracts and ejects that round 100.00000% of the time. Some guns don't like HP, some don't like SOME HP, etc.

    If the guy that said it would blow your pistol up works at the shop, find another gun shop. That is a doofus.


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  6. JW357

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    Not even YOU can delete it??? Wow. Do moderators bleed blood, too? :p


    It was time for a new signature. This is what you get.
     
  7. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    No.

    Usually we drink it.
     
  8. foot2400

    foot2400 New Member

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    Good deal that makes sense now. That was at a bigger store when the guy told me that. The reason I go there is bc they usually have any ammo I need. I do most of my business at a local ma and pop place. Where would be a good place to pick up a stiffer recoil spring?
     
  9. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Your LGS is usually the WORST place in town to get gun info. Minimum wage doophi that don't know jacksh!t. (There are exceptions, of course)
     
  10. JW357

    JW357 New Member

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    Lol, I see what you did there.
     
  11. foot2400

    foot2400 New Member

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    I'm probably not to much smarter than the people at the LGS. The +p and the autos neither feed threw my gun lol. So I wasted some money there.
     
  12. BtDoctur

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    Then something else is wrong. almost any gun will feed ball ammo.My colt could not digest semi-wad cutter but everything else goes thru. Are these reloads by chance?
     
  13. foot2400

    foot2400 New Member

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    No they are not reloads and they weren't ball either. I just bought a box of BJHP and they seem to feed so far.
     
  14. hkhunter

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    If it's like most shoot it 300-500 rounds and keep it lubed to get it broke in. It will really run and feel better after it breaks in. I have had feeding problems with semi wad cutters.


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  15. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    I have yet to see a +P in my neck of the woods (area). Handgun ammunition does not have a shelf life in the big box stores, nor the LGS!
     
  16. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Have a gunsmith polish the feed ramp. Remember, the 1911 was designed specifically for FMJ round nose ammo.

    A little polishing of the feed ramp can help out tremendously in feeding other bullet styles.
     
  17. therewolf

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    IMHO, unless you are out to save the world,

    or repair a rend in the space-time continuum,

    +P is a total waste. Perhaps as a defense against

    bears, or something, and admittedly YMMV, but

    I'm not submitting my pistols to the additional battering

    of hi pressure rounds. It seems normal ammo will do just

    fine.

    When I reload, it's generally to find a minimal powder load

    which will cycle the gun. I already have enough problems with

    shooting, in general, without paying extra to borrow trouble.
     
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  18. Overkill0084

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    QFT.

    IMHO, +p with .45 acp is a more about marketing than performance. 21,000 psi vs. 23,000 psi, is not enough for me to worry about when buying SD ammo.
     
  19. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Just bought a box of hornady +p in 230 using the xt bullet. Only because it was the only non Remington sd ammo on the shelf.
     
  20. ninjatoth

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    I don't much about psi numbers, but I have always heard that a 45acp will last longer than a 9mm because of the lower pressure. Seems like a 45acp+p would still be less psi than a 9mm and 9mms last forever it seems.