.45 ACP or .357 Small/Medium Carry Gun

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by WannaGator, Jun 13, 2011.

  1. WannaGator

    WannaGator New Member

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    Hello I am still looking at a small carry guns (my three options are):

    1)Used or New AMT Backup(I figure $300-525) .45 ACP
    2)New Bersa Thunder (I figure $300-$520) .45 ACP
    3)New EAA Windicator 2" snubby(I figure $275-290).357 Magnum

    What do you shiny happy people folks think?

    Anymore good or even better options?
     
  2. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Are these choices going to be used in self-defense on a daily carry basis or used in the swamp?

    If you plan on using for self defense, always buy the best quality firearm you can. I am not saying that you have to buy the $2400.00 Ed Brown, but research reviews and ask the neighborhood bubbas at the gun shop their opinion, also.
     

  3. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I really enjoyed my Bersa in .380. Now my sister really enjoys it.
     
  4. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Ruger Elsie Ahrrrr .357 Magnum (best DA trigger evva!)
     

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  5. General_lee

    General_lee New Member

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    I don't have experience with the .45 AMT Backup, but I used to have a .380 AMT Backup.. I didn't like it at all, it would fail to feed a lot and the pin that held the "bolt" section in would constantly work it's way out.

    I've never owned or shot the Bersa, but I hear good things.
     
  6. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Or go BOLD and get the Rino
     

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  7. DodgerBlue

    DodgerBlue New Member

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    You COULD go Glock and get a G36. Slime line single stack 6+1 in .45 ACP. Same as a revolver but better! total length is 6.77" and height is 4.76"
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    Or if you like .357 you can go .357 SIG G33 known as the pocket rocket. 9+1 Complete length is only 6.29" and height is only 4.17"
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    Now these are some serious carry options
     
  8. jpattersonnh

    jpattersonnh Active Member

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    Sig P230 or P232. Some think .380 is small for SD, buy I can tell you at 15 yards, nobody is getting up. .45acp mag next to.
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  9. mes227

    mes227 New Member

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    A lot of Glock haters would agree with this!
     
  10. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    To the OP, are those your only options?
     
  11. WDB

    WDB New Member

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    I have to ask why are those your options? I wouldn't chose any of them. Take some time and find a range that rents and shoot several firearms. With a $500 budget I expect you can find a far better firearm to fit your need.
     
  12. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    I own a Bersa Concealed Carry Pro. I also had a Windicator. Both are good guns. But the widicator is like carrying a brick around. The Bersa is one of my regular carry guns. I also have a full size 1911. But that Bersa is so easy to carry.

    I can't speak of the AMT as I have never held or shot one.
     
  13. WannaGator

    WannaGator New Member

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    I am looking at the Bersa and another Windicator after I pay off my shotgun.

    I am also considering a twin barrel .357 Magnum or .45 ACP Derringer.
     
  14. Wambli

    Wambli New Member

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    Do yourself a favor and don't. They are cute and curios but there are MUCH better carry options out there.

    A 2" barrel revolver in .357 mag is a great carry gun but you need to be a seasoned shooter to handle the rather snappy recoil or follow up shots are an issue. An officer's model 1911 is an outstanding option with several Kimber and Springfield Armory model that you could get used for not too far off you price range (as reflected in some of your options).
     
  15. Scratchammo

    Scratchammo New Member

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    Does AMT still make a .45 Backup? I'd go with a Ruger SP101 for a .357 & Ruger P345 for .45. Are you firm on those two calibers? I carry a Ruger SR9c. If y'all haven't noticed I'm a Ruger fan.
     
  16. WannaGator

    WannaGator New Member

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    AMT folded like the company they acquired, High Standard builds them today.

    I love .357 Magnum and .45 ACP especially in a small package.

    My Windicator is great fun to shoot 2 handed or single handed in .38 Special/.38 Special +P in .357 Magnum it requires both hands.

    The 1st time I shot an AMT Backup in .45 ACP(230 grain JHP +P) I scratched/cut my forehead with the front sight.

    I guess I never learn; I am always looking for C-4 in small packages.
     
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  17. Dizzll

    Dizzll New Member

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    My .02, The Glock 27 is the most reliable/versatile ccw on the market. I'd give it a try...
     
  18. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    I have thought of getting a derringer just as a fun toy to play around with. As for self defense, a derringer in a real self defense caliber is just as large and heavy as many small autos. It would be more practical to carry a J-frame with 38 +p ammo in it. At least then you would have 5 shots.
     
  19. Scratchammo

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    If I may be so bold as to say save up just a tad more, Kahr makes some tiny powerhouses in .45. On paper 9mm is up there in the energy levels of .45 with +p rounds. A lot of handguns aren't +p rated though & that's what's preferred out of a shorter barrel to make up for lost velocity in standard pressure loads. That's why for power I'd recommend .40, their saami psi is 35,000 while the .45 is only 21,000. I'm not hating on .45's but it's not the best for pocket pistols.
     
  20. cmhill

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    In 45 how about a para warthog, 1911 styled more compact also has double stack mag for about 10 round capacity i believe, close in overall size to the glock 26/27 etc