Finally got to test some .45 acp ammo, figured I would share some results. the pics are not the best, I would rather buy ammo than a new camera. All rounds were fired into water soaked phone books, The rangers penetrated from 7" to 9", the gold dots 5" to 8". All were fired from a distance of 10' from a Taurus PT 145. The top row are Winchester Ranger T 230 grain auto +p , the bottom are Speer Gold Dot 185 grain.