45-70 smooth bore

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by capnklump, Sep 25, 2010.

  1. capnklump

    capnklump New Member

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    Hey there fellow firearms enthusiasts, I am curious if a 45-70 smooth bore rifle will accept & fire a 410 shotgun shell?? Thanks.
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Have never seen a 45-70 smoothbore "rifle"- that is a contradiction in terms. What the heck do you have?
     

  3. capnklump

    capnklump New Member

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    Well C3 its like this. I'm a Captain on an offshore supply vessel, & our line throwing gun is chambered in 45-70 & the cartridges are blanks. There are brass rods you insert down the "business" end of the barrel to attach the line to that gets shot over to another vessel in distress. I have inspected the barrel closely & indeed it is a smooth bore. (no rifling). I DO NOT wish to shoot any shotgun shells through it. I just wanted to know if it was possible, or if anyone had ever heard of it.
     
  4. 375shooter

    375shooter New Member

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    They are different calibers. The .45-70 is .458 caliber and the .410 shotshell is .410 caliber.
     
  5. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    OK, I'm with you now- "Line Projector". Any chance it is a Harrington & Richardson?

    The answer is probably not. Although the shell chambers, a shot shell functions differently than a metallic cartridge when fired. A metallic cartridge- the bullet is pushed straight out of the metal case. But a shot shell UNFOLDS.

    Think about a fired shotshell for a moment- they are longer than an unfired, due to the mouth of the shell opening OUT. In a shotgun, there is a place for that to happen- that is why a 3 inch shell will chamber in a 2 3/4 inch gun, but is unsafe to fire- pressures jump WAY the hell up there, because the opened shell partially rstricts the bore. Your line thrower has no equivalent space for a shotshell to open- bored straight thru, I betcha.

    COULD you load 45-70 shot rounds, and use them safely? Probably- the line thrower guns were not designed for that, but they take pretty stout pressures. Would it be wise? Not unless you have pirates climbing the taffrail, and you have no other weapons. Will a single .410 shell blow it up? Probably not. Could I ask you to move down to the far end of the range before you do that? Seeing stains on my range bag always makes me depressed. :p
     
  6. capnklump

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    Hahaaaaa!! Good one c3!! I think it is Harrington Richardson. I'm at work on the boat right now & unable to connect my laptop to the internet, but when I get home I'll post some pics of it for you to see.
     
  7. RGH

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    Greetings, Gentlemen,

    In answer to the original question. I don't know why not. When I was a kid, I used to shoot 410's in my 45/70 Springfield rifle. Shot a few rabbits and birds with it.
     
  8. cpttango30

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    SORRY I CALL BS.

    If you look at the dimensions of the two there is no way that can happen.

    There is .080" difference in rim diameter. The .410 is that much smaller and would fall right out.
     
  9. quigleysharps4570

    quigleysharps4570 New Member

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    A .45 long Colt won't fall thru my Sharps...a WW Colt case measures .508 while the 45-70 with a WW case shows .602.
     
  10. RGH

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    Greetings, cpttango30,

    You should be sorry,calling me a liar before actually checking out my statement. I may be old, but I'm not senile. I suggest you try a 410 in your 45/70. An apology may be in order.

    Regards,
     
  11. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    Ok so the rim catches in the chamber...

    Just goes to show you don't have to be smart to own firearms.

    The chamber of a 45/70 IS NOT MADE to shoot .410 shells. Use the CORRECT AMMO in your firearm.

    What happens when the brilliant people say yeah sure you can do that. Then the dude just so happens to blow his face off. I guess you don't care right i mean it is only the interwebs.

    How hard is it to put out good information?

    JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD.

    No I will not apologize to your for you talking our your starfish.

    Regards,
     
  12. RGH

    RGH New Member

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    Greetings,

    Your comprehensive skills aren't quite what they should be. The original question was can it be done, not should it be done. End of contest.

    Regards,
     
  13. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    What you fail to usedstand is this.

    We here at FTF pride ourselves on putting out good and SAFE information.

    If you want to put out PISS POOR Dangerous INFO I heard TFL is taking members.
     
  14. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    I am saying a 22lr can kill a deer.

    I know it can.

    Yes I did do it 2 times. I was young had to help feed 2 families and knew a remote location for it. Am I proud I did it NO. I did it out of the fact that if I did not we would not have had any meat to feed the families. When times are tough you do what you got to do. I figured taking 2 deer out of season was much better than trying to kill a cow Ranchers know when you start killing cows.
     
  15. stalkingbear

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    G37-you need to back off attacking a long standing respected supporting member like you're doing. The thread you brought up has 0 to do with the thread subject. Back off.




     
  16. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    Never did I say it was ok.

    I know it was wrong but it was a time of do what you have to do to provide for 2 families.
     
  17. capnklump

    capnklump New Member

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    My goodness fellas!! If I would have known this topic of discussion would have stirred up such animosity towards eachother, I never would have submitted this thread. Come on guys, lets be civil to one another.
     
  18. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    g37 Has spoken we all must listen because he is NEVER wrong about anything.

    He owns a glock there for he is right 100% of the time.
     
  19. crazycharlie2

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    Totally off the subject. I refuse to visit this thread again.:(