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I'm looking at getting a new lever action rifle. But..... I got it down to two calibers.
Good old 45-70 or trusty 30-30?
This will be my trail gun in Nevada.
 

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I love the 45/70 personally. Both are age old rounds they 45/70 was what 1873? By trail gun what are you wanting to shoot?
 

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What exactly will you be using it for?

Both cartridges are good for a trail gun. The 45-70 will kick harder, but will fire a much larger bullet than the 30-30. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on something as large as a grizzly.

The 30-30 on the other hand will kick lighter, so fast follow up shots are easier. It can easily take out animals such as deer, but I would prefer a larger gun for animals such as bear.
 

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I've never had anything run away from my 45-70 and It doesn't kick any more than a 12 gauge shotgun. I've had it many years with no problem. I use a Kahles 3X9 scope that's hard to beat.
 

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My buddy has a Marlin in 45-70 and I love shooting that thing. It's accurate and with cowboy loads you can shoot it all day. Try some Buffalo Bores and it does kick. Just put a good recoil pad on it and you're good to go.
 

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We have mountain lions coming up close to our house. My dogs run free some nights but, now getting word of the mountain lions showing up in back yards we keep them in!! And some of my hiking trails and camping spots have big-cat trails and markings. I'm leaning on getting the Marlin 336 30/30.... But I know 45 is some good put down power!!!!
 

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.30-30 will handle anything in Nevada.
 

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I have mountain lions getting close to my home. My dogs run free at night but not with a mountain cats out and about. I like to walk the trails back behind my house and do some camping, I see big-cat tracks and other markings! Mostly right after a good rain. But.... I'm looking at getting the Marlin 336 30-30 it might just be the rifle for me!
 

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The 30-30 would do it but you might want to consider a 336 in 35 Remington. It throws a 200 grain RN at the same speed as the 30-30 170 grain FP. Unless you reload, 45-70 can be expensive to shoot. I could see it in Alaska but unless you might be up against a large bear it is overkill.
 

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If a Lion intends to take you out, you will never know it. They are silent killers and very fast. A young man was killed on the Mtn. below my place 2 years ago. He was fishing never knew what hit him.:(
 

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JTJ said:
The 30-30 would do it but you might want to consider a 336 in 35 Remington. It throws a 200 grain RN at the same speed as the 30-30 170 grain FP. Unless you reload, 45-70 can be expensive to shoot. I could see it in Alaska but unless you might be up against a large bear it is overkill.
Thanks I'll look in to the Remington rifles!
 

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Some of you guys must be tougher than me. I've got both and the 45-70 is the most miserable rifle I've ever fired. Touch it off and it's like getting whacked in the shoulder by Mike Tyson. That said, if I was headed to a place like Alaska, the 45-70 would be the one I'd take.
 

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I've shot a lot of 45-70, it has a good wallop. I want to shoot some 50-90! I'm a recoil junkie.
 

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mountainman13 said:
I was in the shop a couple months ago and they had a double barrel 45/70. Talk about painful.
Wish I knew a fella with a nitro 600 double....
 
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