Okay, I now have to provide a bedside shotgun that my wife willpick up to go chase dogs or run BG's away. She isn't 100% with guns but if she has to, she can make some serious holes in her target. She doesn't want to depend on her pistol for inside due to over penetration. She is also one of those that don't like recoil. This all being said, she doesn't like my sawn off 20, so I'm thinking 410. This shotgun will be used for HD and fun at the range. Yes I know that shells are rediculous to buy, but what do ya'll think about 410 for HD? Is it good enough? I mean they do take down big game animals. Oh, and it's a pump that I found. 20" barrel with a full choke. and going to get some tac gear. Thanks for your input.