i wents shooting yesterday in the hot arizona desert and i took my winchester model 37A youth in 410. based on the life like manikin we shot. ''chest and head'' it seems like the 410 is a fine home defence and a self defence firearm. when we shot the manikin the blew off the stand and rolled all the way down a hill. all of the bird shot going all the way through the head and chest. if you were in the home defence scenario and you hit someone with the 410 #6 shot with 3" shells it will knock them off there feet. but with the buck shot it will just travel through the body with no knockdown power. if a man on drugs breaks into your house it most likely will not work. i was supprised with how much force the #6 shot put on the manikin. it literaly flew off the stand and did 4 or 5 flips in the air before it hit the ground. then it rolled down a hill. what do you guys think of it as a home defence firearm?