I had heard rumors about it for a couple years on the net, and then saw it on futureweapons. on the net I saw 2000yd groups that were pretty impressive, I even saw one that was, If I remember right, 16.75inches (handloads?). rumors of a first-shot kill at 2300+ yards, and on futureweapons it didn't look like it had much kick at all, although it does have a muzzlebreak. on the other hand, there are rumors of rounds developing excessive pressures in the 100+ degree heat of the middle east, with accompanying problems.