I went and shot Glock's yesterday. I'm interested in buying either a G27 or G30. I was a little rusty on semi-auto shooting. Haven't been in almost a month now. However I was able to group my .45 rounds much better than the .40 rounds. Recoil on the .45 was much less. I haven't shot .40 in a long time, I have a XD45 but I'm going to sell it. This gun will be for conceal carry so thoughts on the variances in calibers and models would be helpful. Despite the grouping, which I'm sure with a little more practice I could accomplish with the .40 I couldn't tell much difference.
40 Vs 45acp Notdku I've always been of the mind that if I had a 45ACP,. I really had no Need for 40? I'm not the biggest fan of the Glock? I've always felt when it was fully loaded, it felt fine, when It was empty, it feels like a cap gun? I've no issue with how well they work, how good the sites are and how well theyn function! I just can't get past the "Feel"? I've never had a Glock in 40, I've had a few in 9MM a 17 and a 19, both worked well, but soon found themselves in my sell or trade pile? For you, it has to be, try what works, go with that? That seems to be the best for all of us? What works for you, feels wrong to me? Thats great about America, you have your Glock and I can Have my BHP or 1911? LOL We get to pick what we feel best with?
The .40 is a snappy round so its not suprising you grouped better with the .45acp. I sold my .40 Glock 22 some time ago because I just didnt enjoy shooting it. My only two Glocks now are a 21, and a 19 and I couldnt be happier with them. I had a 30 (compact .45) I carried when I lived in a CCW frindly state, I since sold it since I no longer have any use for compacts. It was a great gun however and would be a good choice. Glocks grip angle......well ugh love it or leave it is what it boils down to. I have big hands so they work just fine for me. The gun in question just before I sold it. Like I said it was a good piece I just no longer had any need for a compact (Illinois, and no CCW allowed you know )
I have to agree The .40 is just not worth it, to me. The .45 is bigger, recoil is almost identical and I have LOTS of .45 bullets, accessories and cleaning supplies. I just don't see the need - I can shoot 9mm +P's or just stick to the .45. The .40 is an answer to the firearms and ammunition makers dreams! Other than that, bah.
Addendum: Real world shootings indicate that the .40 does NOT equal the .45 in stopping power, although it ranks above a standard 9 mm round. So, again, what need is there for the .40?
I agree go with 10mm In my opinion there are quite a few calibers out there that are rather pointless. For example I give you the folowing. .357sig - 9mm+P is practicaly the same thing, with cheaper plinking/practice ammo. .40S&W - This round was the answer to a problem that didn't exist IMO. Good old .45auto, or 10mm will do the task better. Heck even modern 9mm JHP loads perform as well. .45 GAP - Ugh don't get me started on this one. The idea was to make a more compact .45, and I don't see how it suceeded in doing so. The round is just a little shorter, but it still makes for a large grip in double stack pistols. Any pocket pistol caliber other than .380acp is pointless. There really is no need for .25auto, or .32acp today. They are two ineffective rounds, that can be replaced by the .380 in a package that is just as small.
I tihnk the reason you did better with the .45 than the .40 is because of the gun. There is a lot more to hold on to with the g30 than the g27. Why you getting rid of the xd-45? I have an xd-45 compact and that has become my new carry gun replacing my g19 and g26. I love the way my xd shoots.
Although I'm a devout .45 guy, I like the Glock 27 for concealed carry. It is very small, yet holds 10 rounds of an effective cartridge. Accuracy is good, although that is not a very important consideration in a compact carry pistol. Yes, the recoil is "snappy". I would not let that sway me however, because it is a relative non-issue. A compact, defensive concealment pistol needs to be small enough to conceal, be chambered in an effective cartridge (9mm and up), and most important be extremely reliable! We're not gonna shoot competitions, so accuracy is NOT important for a conceal carry pistol. Actual engagements would most always occur at ranges under 15', and pretty much any gun will hit accurate enough at that distance. Also make sure you carry a quality defensive round in it. Hardball, while reliable, is too prone to ineffective wounding and overpenetration. Don't use it. Donnie
It comes down to which firearm and caliber works for you. There are many diferent opinions as calibers and firearms.
.45 For this County Cop As a Sheriff's Deputy, I carry a Glock model 21 (full sized .45 ACP) and I must agree that a .45 round does have less recoil than a .40. Which to a naked shooter doesn't make since because a .45 round is much larger. The .45 does have a kick, but it is much easier to control than the "snappy" recoil of the .40. For concealment, the 21 is very large so I would def go with the model 30. But like anything, go with what your comfortable with. Just because I've used the .45 on duty and trust it with my life doesn't mean it will be right for you. You must have confidence in both your shooting ability and the caliber you shoot with.
I have a 27 for ccw. I love it for what it is. I still want a 30 though. Practice, practice, practice. If you do have to use it, the recoil is fine. Chances are you won't rapid fire in a altercation, and take one shot to sway the bad guys decision. If that doesn't work you'll have plenty of time to re aim. IMO when you reach for your small ccw it feels much better pulling a 27 than a 26 or any other 9mm.
40 or 45 what was your choice and why ? I googled 40 versus 45 and that is what led me to this site. I have a Glock 17 and need to purchase a smaller gun to conceal. What was your choice ? The Glock, was it a Gen 3 or one of the new Gen 4s ?
I own a G23 and love it. Even though eventually down the road, i will want a G21 but, does it really matter? i mean if i have a unwanted guess or a incident in the streets, i feel more than confident my 40 with hollows or hydra's will do the trick...hands down
My 9mm +p is almost ballistically just as effective as a standard .40 round. I would either go 9mm +p/ +p+ or just go all the way to a .45. I am not a fan of the .40. Its kinda pointless...
i like both . but i like the .45acp glock 21sf & 30sf better . but i am looking to get another glock 23 . that lil sucker rock`s !
All Austin LEO's are now carrying .40 cal as far as I know. I too doubt it is pointless. While I wouldn't want to be hit by either, I believe the .40 still makes a bigger mess than a 9mm and that is the point. Same can be said going up to .45 vs .40. The trade off is mag capacity and .40 is a good compromise for some.
I have a very vague recollection of the 10mm coming first. Supposedly it was going to be the new wonder-round for the FBI, but when it proved to be too much for many to handle, the scaled down version resulted in the .40 S&W. Like I said, it's a vague recollection and I could be way off base. I like the .40 personally. I have a P94 and an M&P 40c. I won't deny that it is a snappy round, especially in a compact, but it is certainly manageable.
