40 cal. ammo for carry

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by Pjj342, Nov 27, 2010.

  1. Pjj342

    Pjj342 New Member

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    What would you say is a safe bet for 40 cal jhp. Ive spent a long time researching the 9mm for self defense, which you NEED find the right ammo with enough punch. Since the 40 has some power to spare are +p's necessary? What would you recomend. Every post helps.
     
  2. stalkingbear

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    What's more important than the exact bullet brand/pressure is that it works in YOUR gun every time. As long as you choose a good brand bullet you'll get good performance. I'm partial to Gold Dot or Critical Defense ammo as long as my firearms are 100% reliable with them.
     

  3. king1138

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  4. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    +1 to what Bear said. .40 S&W is a quirky ammo, in my opinion, some weights are a bit snappy in recoil while others are little more than 9mm. What is important is to find a brand and weight that performs flawlessly in your gun and has a manageable recoil. I use Hornady Personal Defense or Plain Jane Federal JHP.
     
  5. hcso617

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    Winchester Ranger 165 gr SXT, my wife shoots that in her Glock, very popular round in the law enforcement community. WHAT EVER YOU CHOOSE MAKE SURE IT RUNS IN YOUR GUN.
     
  6. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I'm going to echo stalkingbear but if you want a good bullet to look at, try HSTs.
     
  7. King Ghidora

    King Ghidora New Member

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    I don't own a .40 but I've done a lot of research personally and read a lot about .45 ammo. HST's and Gold Dot's are the prime stuff in that caliber. I have mostly Gold Dot in my guns but I do have some HST. I get the best performace from Gold Dot in both of my .45's but I load a mag or two with HST's. By far the most amazing ammo I've seen though has been the Gold Dot for short barrels in my carry pistol. It is dead on accurate and it produces a lot more power in a shorter barrel. For my short barrel gun all of my mags are loaded with it.
     
  8. Dizzll

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    +1 for Gold Dots, I've tried many different and TBH I can't tell the difference other than very subtle snap difference. So I have gone with the research. If you Google it, about 75% of all tests say that the Gold Dots perform better against flesh due to the bonding process, so that's what I use.
     
  9. skyryder

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    Not to be a smart ass, but any ammo that works well in a particular weapon is fine as long as you hit what your aiming at. I guess I'm saying it's not size of the hole, , it's where the hole is.

    One other thing, as with the +P and other heavy loads the is the chance of collateral damage as like going through a wall and striking non-involved parties.
     
  10. staudisglock

    staudisglock New Member

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    I have found that Winchester PDX 1 165gr is great i carry a G23 and these rounds have less snap plus i got to see what they do to a 135lb pig WOW!! they are not the cheapest though but in a SD round price isn't really that important.
     
  11. Lycanfire

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    Don't know if this applies here or not. Your close to a State that won't allow you to carry anything other than ball ammo. If you travel, make sure you know the laws of the State you’re in, not the one where you’re from. In fact you have to follow both of them. If you don't, someday you might be in for a surprise.
     
  12. Jpyle

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    Fixed that for you. To the best of my knowledge NJ does not honor any other state's CCW permit.

    But your initial point is 100% accurate, hollow point ammo is verboten for carry in NJ.
     
  13. 147_Grain

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    Suggestions for consideration:

    After learning and practicing proper shot placement, choose an unbonded 180-gr. HP load that functions reliably in your weapon for best overall performance. IF you insist on a midweight load in 165-gr., make sure it is at least bonded to ensure penetration through the vitals like the 180-gr. load is more apt to do. The 155-gr. Barnes XP Tactical copper loads are the only lightweight bullets in 40 S&W caliber that perform well for performance in Gel, 4-Ply Denim, and Heavy Cloth - areas civilians are likely to face.

    Here's a list of a few loads that are above average for CIVILIAN consideration:


    ************ 40 S&W ************


    Winchester Ranger T: LE Only
    ** 180-gr. HP (RA40T) @ 990 fps



    Federal HST: LE Only
    ** 180-gr. HST HP (P40HST1)

    http://le.atk.com/general/federalpro...cticalhst.aspx
    LE - Wound Ballistics
    LE - Wound Ballistic Videos


    Remington Golden Saber: Similar to Ranger T
    * 180-gr. HP (GS40SWB)


    Double Tap:
    ** 180-gr. Nosler Jacketed HP @ 1,050 fps in 3 ½” barrel or 1,140 fps in 4 ½”.


    Black Hills:
    ** 155-gr. Barnes Tac-XP Copper Jacketed HP @ 1,100 fps


    Federal Tactical – Barnes XPB:
    155-gr. Barnes XPB Expander Copper Jacketed HP @ 1,030 fps. (T40XB1)

    LE - Tactical Barnes XPB


    Winchester Supreme Elite: Civilian Version of Bonded Ranger T
    * 165-gr. Bonded PDX1 HP (S40SWPDB) @ 1,140 fps


    Speer Gold Dot: Also see Double Tap, Georgia Arms, Buffalo Bore, & etc.
    * 165-gr. Bonded Gold Dot (23970)


    Winchester White Box USA Brand: Low-Budget Load at Walmart – When That’s All You Can Find!
    180-gr. HP (USA40JHP) @ 1,010 fps
     
  14. 147_Grain

    147_Grain New Member

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    Suggestions for consideration:

    After learning and practicing proper shot placement, choose an unbonded 180-gr. HP load that functions reliably in your weapon for best overall performance. IF you prefer a midweight load in 165-gr., make sure it is at least bonded to ensure penetration through the vitals like the 180-gr. load is more apt to do. The 155-gr. Barnes XP Tactical copper loads are the only lightweight bullets in 40 S&W caliber that perform well for performance in Gel, 4-Ply Denim, and Heavy Cloth - areas civilians are likely to face.

    Here's a list of a few loads that are above average for CIVILIAN consideration:


    ************ 40 S&W ************


    Winchester Ranger T: LE Only
    ** 180-gr. HP (RA40T) @ 990 fps


    Federal HST: LE Only
    ** 180-gr. HST HP (P40HST1)

    http://le.atk.com/general/federalpro...cticalhst.aspx
    LE - Wound Ballistics
    LE - Wound Ballistic Videos


    Remington Golden Saber: Similar to Ranger T
    * 180-gr. HP (GS40SWB)


    Double Tap:
    ** 180-gr. Nosler Jacketed HP @ 1,050 fps in 3 ½” barrel or 1,140 fps in 4 ½”.


    Black Hills:
    ** 155-gr. Barnes Tac-XP Copper Jacketed HP @ 1,100 fps


    Federal Tactical – Barnes XPB:
    155-gr. Barnes XPB Expander Copper Jacketed HP @ 1,030 fps. (T40XB1)

    LE - Tactical Barnes XPB


    Winchester Supreme Elite: Civilian Version of Bonded Ranger T
    * 165-gr. Bonded PDX1 HP (S40SWPDB) @ 1,140 fps


    Speer Gold Dot: Also see Double Tap, Georgia Arms, Buffalo Bore, & etc.
    * 165-gr. Bonded Gold Dot (23970)


    Winchester White Box USA Brand: Low-Budget Load at Walmart – When That’s All You Can Find!
    180-gr. HP (USA40JHP) @ 1,010 fps
     
  15. steve666

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    My choices, in order of preference, are:
    CorBon 135gr JHP (or 135gr PowrBall)
    Remington 165gr Golden Saber
    Speer 155gr Gold Dot
     
  16. Infidel

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    I found six boxes of 135gr JHP Federal .40 S&W at a ridiculously low price. Me being me, I had to buy all of them.

    You didn't mention what you'd be using for a launching platform so, I can only speak from experience I have carrying them in a Glock 22, 23, and 27.

    They are dead bones accurate. The 40 has never been outstanding in the accuracy department, but they perfrom better in my Glock 40's than the normal 180gr JHP's I normally carried until I found this stuff. Group sizes have been cut by about a third. Flatter trajectory and whatnot.

    Recoil is about the same as a 9mm 124gr at standard velocities, which is to say pretty mild especially in my G27 which has been my BUG for years.

    Terminal performance...though I have never used this round on a human target (and hope I never have to)...I have used it on a big coyote (in my G22) that was pestering my horses and on a feral pitbull that was growling at my daughter.

    Expansion was wicked and through the shoulder blew apart the heart and lungs, and came to rest under the skin on the other side of the 'yote...I mean it turned in innards into shredded meat. The pit got a quartering round from left chest and the round expanded similarly wickedly from my Glock 27 and the round came to rest on the right rib cage.

    I am not recoil sensitive...but at 43...I don't enjoy shooting thumpers as much as I once did. These Federal 135gr JHP's seem to be the magic bullet for me anyway. I really like them. Low recoil, great expansion, good penetration without worrying about it going through and through, it all adds up to a good round.
     
  17. JTJ

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    "I am not recoil sensitive...but at 43...I don't enjoy shooting thumpers as much as I once did. These Federal 135gr JHP's seem to be the magic bullet for me anyway. I really like them. Low recoil, great expansion, good penetration without worrying about it going through and through, it all adds up to a good round."
    Wait till you hit 70.
     
  18. USMC-03

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    I was just given 300 rounds of Remington Golden Saber hollow points...165 grain I believe. I'll have to check when I get home to be sure. As long as they run well though my new Glock 27 that is what I'll be carrying on me. I carry them in both my 9mm pistols, as well as my .45's...what can I say, a friend of mine works at Remington and gets me awesome deals. I've not had any problems with them in any of my other guns so I don't see a reason not to carry them in my .40 also.
     
  19. Infidel

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    Trust me...they WILL function perfectly in your Glock. The little booger will gobble them up, and spit them out with monotonous regularity. You will find the 165gr weights to be acceptably accurate in your subcompact, and will function without flaw or hiccup.

    Carry them with confidence.
     
  20. model67a

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    Check out Cor Bon 140 grain DPX. This is the round I use and do not believe there is a better round available. Check all the reviews. They are all favorable. It uses the Barnes-X bullet which is proven. All copper. Pretty pricey but when it may mean your life no expense is too great!!


    Cor-Bon DPX Handgun Ammunition