Oho, Mr Dallas has a point to make, or a dead horse to beat, hard to tell sometimes.
I am designing small firearms, so I am technically a firearms designer. The value or merit you assign to it is of little concern to me.
And I'd hardly call these 'fancy'. The mechanics are really simple (too simple really, need to add that locking mechanism).
And am I really the one who needs to get over himself? You seem hell-bent on brow-beating me for my minor ambition, and I really don't know what you seem to want out of it. If it's for the satisfaction of seeing me crumble and quit, then you're a bully, and not a good one at that.
And you'll get no such satisfaction from me anyway. I'll quit when I determine that my project has run its' course, like I always do.
Also I've never needed alot of friends, just the good ones.
i apologize for getting a little carried away Mr. Balota. i just get a little "testy" when people promote or push ideas, procedures and methods that are unsafe when it comes to firearms and ammo.
i liken this to about the same level of irresponsibility as driving drunk. frankly, if a person sits at home and gets falling down drunk, and hurts themselves, or does something that only injures or kills them because of their intoxicated state, then so be it, and that is simple rules of Darwin acting to clean up the gene pool. but when that person gets into a vehicle and drives among the public, putting innocent bystanders and other motorists at risk from their drinking, then i have huge problem with that.
IMO, whether the OP is selling or giving away his designs is irrelevant. kind of like whether the person gave or sold the drunk driver the alcohol to drink that put them in an impaired state to be driving.
i took the OP's attitude and arrogance towards this as being too cavalier and irresponsible. seriously, in six months can a person really absorb over sixty years of gun designing? doubtful IMO. i have been around gun for well over fifty years, have reloaded for a great number of years, and have worked on my own firearms for a number of years, and have very, very strong mechanical background in mechanical repair of all types of equipment, many of which i hold multiple certifications in being able to diagnose, repair and certify for safe usage. none of that under any circumstances does that make me gun designer.
myself and others tried to point out his lack of knowledge and his shortcomings in this endeavor. my main point is awareness so that someone doesn't take the OP's ideas and try to build their own "toy gun" that ends up getting them hurt or killed.
I remember the real 3D printed pistol, the one Defense Distributed built, and the barrel on that thing was gigantic to hold the pressure of the .380 ACP cartridge it was meant to handle. It was an interesting concept, that lead to DD getting in a bunch of trouble, IIRC.
i apologize for getting a little carried away Mr. Balota. i just get a little "testy" when people promote or push ideas, procedures and methods that are unsafe when it comes to firearms and ammo.
Look, Dallas just agreed to back off, and has said his piece. The smart move would be to do the same, not try to keep kicking the dog, to show how big your b@lls are. Especially if you want to keep this thread open, so you can gain input from other members.
The mods have warned both of you, and Dallas stated why he responded the way he did, to which i say he does have a very valid point. Then he agreed to back off. So, who do you think is going to be in deep $#!+, if you continue to poke the bear?
Like I said, Drop it, ignore him, and work twice as hard to prove what you are making works, by consulting with designers and engineers, to make a safe product, that will hold up. a good place to start would be to research the AR-7, paying close attention to how they make the barrels out of resin, with a steel sleeve, which could also be done with a receiver and breach.
and you both lost. It was for accuracy, and I don't miss.
Frankly, you are the one who is pushing. You asked for additional knowledge. Several people have told you that 3-D printed plastic is not going to hold the casing pressures of any modern cartridge. Based on that practical fact, they question the validity of your design and wonder what your qualifications are to be claiming to be a designer. You get offended and respond. Once you get someone to react, you respond in ways that provoke further conflict.
If you want to continue this discussion here, I'd recommend that you consider addressing the chamber pressure issue. Or the sliding lock issue. Or the trigger guard size issue. Or the color of the plastic. Or any other fact about the topic that seems relevant... Anything but addressing other people.
Also, "dickish" may not be the upper limit of your foul language, but it better be the upper limit of what you express here.
while doing some searching for other information on the ATF/Gov site, i found this bit of interesting information in regards to 3D printing of firearms that some might find useful.
The first one is rather interesting. I don't think any of the loose parts of the designs in this thread would look like anything on a TSA X-ray. Further, if it was all plastic, it would not show up on metal detectors. Of course it might only be good for 1 shot, and the same might be said of the shooter.
Note that the OP is from Canada, so our ATF doesn't immediately affect him. I wonder if Canada has any laws regarding the fabrication of undetectable firearms?
Canada has a number of laws on "acquisition" of firearms, including those that are severely restricted- short barreled hand guns. If you manufacture a gun, you have acquired it.
The first one is rather interesting. I don't think any of the loose parts of the designs in this thread would look like anything on a TSA X-ray. Further, if it was all plastic, it would not show up on metal detectors. Of course it might only be good for 1 shot, and the same might be said of the shooter.
Note that the OP is from Canada, so our ATF doesn't immediately affect him. I wonder if Canada has any laws regarding the fabrication of undetectable firearms?
that is quite true, but there are members here from all countries, that might find the information similar to their own laws.
this kind of reminds me of the Clint Eastwood movie, "In The Line Of Fire", where he played a Secret Service agent who was going after a bad guy who made a gun from plastic.
So if I us a heavy enough plastic(if it is possible) I could 3d print an AR-15 (whatever you call the .223 weapons) style receiver and buy a receiver-less kit and that would be perfectly legal.
I'm sure it may not to safe, maybe use the 3d part for a casting mold?
So if I us a heavy enough plastic(if it is possible) I could 3d print an AR-15 (whatever you call the .223 weapons) style receiver and buy a receiver-less kit and that would be perfectly legal.
I'm sure it may not to safe, maybe use the 3d part for a casting mold?
read the BATFE guidelines on building a firearm from scratch. as long s you are building a firearm that meets the required definitions of legal firearm, then yes you can build one.
the receiver is the only part that is federally controlled as being a firearm. so if you built a lower receiver out of plastic and bought an AR upper, (which doesn't required an FFL to purchase) then install it, that's completely legal.
this wouldn't be much different than people buying an 80% lower and doing their own machining, then buying an upper for it. i also can't see it being any different than what Bushmaster is doing with the Carbon 15 lowers which are a composite material. after all, there are still the trigger, bolt and carrier in the firearm that are metal, and with a metal upper, it's not like it would be able to pass through an X-Ray machine undetected.
I've attempted to add a locking system and safety to the lever-action slider, and decided that the existing model is just too small for it.
I'm not abandoning the concept, but I definitely need to start it from the ground up.
Meantime I've fleshed out an idea I had off to the side for a while. https://www.patreon.com/posts/11618908
After a long absence, due to a collection of obstacles, I have returned!
And I'm returning, now that I can actually continue my work, with a greatly superior design.
I present to you the Mosquito 3 'M' v.4
This is the first printable, functional, working prototype in the Mosquito 3 'M' lineup.
It's designed around a percussion cap firing mono-barrel, but the action could easily be scaled up and modified to fire a .22LR, or conceivably any standard cartridge.
But I wouldn't try printing anything to fire something larger than .22LR, you'd have to mill it out of metal.
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