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Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by mountainman13, Apr 9, 2012.
Any accuracy loss?
most often it is the opposite - accuracy gain
Due to recoil recovery or ballistics?
I was not thinking of recoil recovery but that would be true also. I was talking about slow aimed fire. I have shot a large number of 38's in 357 guns and I have never seen (in my own experience) one that shoots 357's better. I am sure some may exist but I have not run across any.
Alright cool. Thanks for the info. I just acquired a .357 mag snubby and all I could get my hands on were the .38 spl. Looking forward to running a box through it when I get back from down south.
If you want the best accuracy and reload use 357mag cases and load using 38spl charge weights. This gets the bullet as close to the forcing cone as possible and increases accuracy even more.
The reason full power 357 loads arent as accurate is because the bullet is being driven way past its ideal operating speed.
Nice Ty jon
I have heard reports of .38 special rounds having about 50/ft per second less velocity outof a .357 snub vs out of a standard .38 special revolver.Not enough to fret over.
This is what I do as well. I also use hard cast semi-wadcutters with a
gas check (cuts down on leading). You can use .38spl brass and crimp
in the 2nd grease groove. This helps some with bullet jump.
If you are looking for a "generally as a rule" answer, there is none.
Some have increased accuracy, some have worse.
Each handgun is different.
Mine seems to be abot the same accuracy, my best grouping so far was with ranier ballistics 125 cpfp on top of 9.8 gr of hs6, .357 brass and cci 500 primer, group was about half-dollar size
My Colt Single Action Army seems to be more accurate with .38 special ammo. I usually shoot Remington .38 special ammo in it.
Remington UMC 125gr sjhp .38spc+p is extremely accurate, as accurate as my .357 reloads. Only complaint i have is that it appears to me that many companies are loading 38 down, 38+p to 38 and 357 to 38+p levels.
My 686 6" seems most accurate with 38 special +P factory ammo. Only slightly better than 357 mag, but that might be me. I do like the idea of 38 special +P loads in 357 brass though. That makes sense and I'm going to give that a try.
let us know how it works out
Thanks for all the input guys. Planning on hitting the range Sunday (unless its too crowded with the public shooters). I'll let you know how she shoots.
I shoot at a range that is primarily lead only. I was shooting 38 special 148dewc with 2.7g of bullseye because I have lots of bullseye and a Smith 52 that shoots 38 wad cutter only. They shot great in my Dan Wesson 15/2 with a 6" barrel. I could keep most of them touching at 50 feet. I tried 3.3g of bullseye and the 148 dewc in 357 cases and my impact point was about 2" higher. The acuracy was about the same. I also tried 158 swc and 3.7g bullseye in the 357 cases. They shot about the same as as the 148 dewc. All of these loads should be close in velocity acording to my speer manual. I didn't expect the different impact point. All of the bullets are hardcast. I got them from Rogers Better Bullets in King of Prussia Pa. The price and quality were very good. I agree that every gun is different. I just haven't found anything that doesn't work in this one yet.
today i shot some test rounds of a load, basically .38 spc +p+, using 8.4 grains of hs6, seems like a good in between load, not quite as powerful as my .357 loads [9.8 grains hs6], but not so light that i have issues with too little pressure or ignition issues.
another point to consider is if shooting mainly 38 spl. in your 357 mag. pistol, then remember to clean the cylinder bores also. they can build up fouling in them and make it harder to chamber a 357 cartridge. i prefer myself to shoot 38 spl. in one, just because of the difference in ammo costs. but now that i reload, it's probably not that big an issue anymore.
+1, I will add I use Clay for a powder, it is very clean.
I also cast my own bullets, recast wheel weights do very well in this application.