357magnum revolver vs ?? caliber pistol ?

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  1. jason56262

    jason56262 New Member

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    What can you compare a 357 magnum revolver with against what caliber in a pistol ? Or is it superior/greater to a 45acp?
     
  2. Bob Wright

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    Depends............ up close-in-your-face I'd choose a .357 Magnum loaded with a good 158 gr. lead SWCHP. On the street, tossup betwixt the .45 ACP and the .357. I'd pick the .45 ACP with a flat nosed or holloow point bullet.

    My own druthers is a .44 Special with 240 gr. JHPs.


    Bob Wright
     

  3. hardluk1

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    Superior to a 45acp By far better. Only a 10mm is in the same ability and it is so close it will cause arguments. Factory run of the mill ammo you can find in your average store the 357 is a better round but when underwood ammo, BB and DT are in the mix they are very close or the 10mm steps ahead as the best 357loads will be hand loaded. You do have a better choice of handguns with the 357 and longer barrels aid even higher velocities. One of my old hog loads was a 180gr hardcaste at 1450fps from a 8" barrel. There are handguns that load should not be fired in. The 357 does have slightly better ballistics too but they really are two close rounds. Probably depends much more on your needs and handgun size .
    Underwood loads
    10mm loads - http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmauto.aspx
    357mag - http://www.underwoodammo.com/357magnum.aspx
     
  4. lilrichthedragon

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    Also with the 357 you can practice with or self defence with 38 special plus p ammo.
    But its been pretty hard to find 38 bullets around here and when you do they are about the same price as the 357 rounds
     
  5. nitestalker

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    The .357 Mag. loaded with 125 grs. HP is a serious combat weapon. I really doubt that for most civilian human encounters a long barreled magnum hand gun would be required.
    The CC weapon is for personal protection. Police weapons are used as offenseive and defensive weapons. I think too many people confuse their persoanl rights to carry with police powers. Wrong.:(
     
  6. blackxpress

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    Superior/greater in what regard?
     
  7. txpossum

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    Someone one here made a statement in another thread -- it may have been Jon -- to the effect that while the .357 might not take first place in all categories, it pretty much took second place in everything. The point being that I think a .357 magnum revolver with a four to six inch barrel is the most useful all around handgun there is, especially considering with wide range of ammunition that it can shoot.

    Everyone should have a .357 anchoring their collection.
     
  8. Steel_Talon

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    Apples and Oranges.....


    Myself I believe that every gun owner needs to have a .38/.357 mag revolver in their stable.
     
  9. Overkill0084

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    Superior how?
    Stopping power? Capacity? Noise level? Muzzle flash? Penetration?

    Intended use?
    Concealed carry? Nightstand? Target use? Hunting? Boat anchor?
     
  10. SSGN_Doc

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    I could compare it to all calibers. They may not look remotely equal. But what is the task that any selected round is being asked to do?

    For fun and economic practice and marksmanship building, as well as matches, a .22 is probably king.

    For combat, something thta is reliable, easy to reload, and get follow up shots may be superior. (All handguns actually suck in this role, and a rifle is better.)

    For practical shooting matches, something that makes the power requirements, but doesn't have excessive recoil may be prefered.

    For hunting, it may depend on the game. A .22 is still better for small stuff, where you want to preserve meat or hides, while a large bore Magnum may be prefered for dangerous animals, or animals with thick bones that need a heavy bullet to guarantee adequate penetration. Think .44 as being a minimum.
     
  11. JW357

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    The .45 ACP was developed to basically be a combat caliber. There are those who believe it is the end-all, be-all caliber in this regard.

    The .357 Magnum was developed because cops way back when needed more penetration against gangsters' cars and whatnot. In this regard, it performs beautifully in most roles (as txpossum said) and IMO has great numbers for civil work.

    What this means is they were essentially developed for the same purpose. They each have their almost cult-like following, and its usually justified if you ask me.

    *Shrug*
     
  12. orangello

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    I would much rather pistol whip somebody with my GP-100 than with my XD45.

    For shooting naked people, the .45acp should be better, but for shooting people in heavy, heavy clothing, the .357 should be more effective, IMO.
     
  13. Anna_Purna

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    In the urban city, i'd go 357 all the way only because they will shoot through both sides of a dumpster ;)
     
  14. orangello

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    So you do hate bears! :p
     
  15. Anna_Purna

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    Absolutely I do. I've always luved the Philadelphia Eagles waaaay more that the Bears.


    Gooooooo Eagles :D
     
  16. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    The .357 Magnum was and is the standard by which all others are judged. Its one shot stopping record is unparalled. Simple, versitile, powerful, the .357 does it all well.

    The .45 ACP has its loyal followers, with good reason. Unarmored, two legged vermin are prime candidates for intervention with the .45. As stated, heavy clothing and other intermediate barriers will challenge the .45 to some degree. The higher sectional density of the .358 158 gr bullet gives it much more penetration potential.

    The .357 Magnum is only challenged in self-loading pistols by high end 10mm loads.
     
  17. SSGN_Doc

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    Not the Eagles. Your cool points just went down in my book.:D

    It's alright though, you can give me some crap back. I've been a Cowboys fan since Landry was the coach and Staubach was the quarterback. Been a rough few years.
     
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  18. eatmydust

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    Anna - I've been an Iggles fan since 1974, when my man, Roman Gabriel was traded to the PHL Iggles from my beloved L.A. Rams, and I've been a tortured soul ever since!

    Now to the OP, I used to have handguns in .22lr, .22wmr, .380acp., 9mm, .357 mag & .45 acp. before the horrific house fire that consumed all of my firearms.

    If it came down to TSHTF, I would have chosen my S&W mod. 19 over every other platform & caliber!

    It was the 1st handgun caliber I ever owned and may be the last if I'm blessed to ever own another handgun.;)
     
  19. lilrichthedragon

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    I actually own a 357 and a 45. The 45 was my first pistol. Ps i own only steel frame guns. Like everyone else is saying it all depends on purpose type of ammo length of barrel etc. If all else fails and you still can't decide get one at a time or save up and get both.
     
  20. lilrichthedragon

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    The model 19-6 is my 357. I know what your saying. Its a bad *** revolver. Although I have heard a lot of hear say about a forcing cone issue when using lower than 158gr lead loads in both 38 and 357. I have shot 130gr fmj 38 loads with no problems though I see some wear on it. It was used when I got it so I dunno what its been through other than being a texas highway patrolman's sidearm. Reguardless I have a 2nd barrel on standby