.308 vs. 30-06

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by shootitout, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. shootitout

    shootitout New Member

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    What are the differences which is better in your mind.
    Also I read that some 30-06 will shoot a .308 as well just wondering what u guy thought.
     
  2. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    As far as I know, there is no .30-06 rifle on the market that will chamber and fire a .308, unless it's an interchangeable barrel system. They are entirely different chamberings.

    The .308 is, to my knowledge, basically a reduced .30-06 in power and size. Both can take pretty much any game on the North American continent, although there are some animals I wouldn't try for with the .308, it would just be a little too iffy for my tastes, like moose and bear.

    Both are exceptionally accurate and not too bad on recoil. Between the two, the best would be the one that you shoot the best. For a new shooter (I don't know if you fit the bill or not) I would recommend starting with the .308 for it's much milder recoil. Heavy recoil breeds bad shooting flinch.
     

  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    The 30-06 has a longer cartridge. It will not shoot .308 (well, you ain't supposed to- caught one dingbat at the range trying it- blows out the shoulder)

    Folks argue accuracy back and forth- unless you are a Camp Peary 1000 meter finalist, I doubt that one truly has an edge over the other in accuracy.

    Due to a difference in rate of twist, the 06 can handle longer, heavier bullets than the .308.

    EDIT: Yes, Trip- both use a .308 bullet.
     
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  4. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    I believe they also use the same diameter projectile, but don't quote me on that, the reloaders amongst us would know much better than I.
     
  5. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    The .308 is .30-06 lite.................& yes they both use the same bullet. O & the same primer. LOL
     
  6. theropinfool

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    Anything a .308 can do, a 30-06 can do 100-200 fps faster. They use the same bullet, so does the 300 win mag, 300 weatherby mag, 30-378 weatherby mag, yadda yadda yadda... Only thing that changes is how much powder they use.

    I should point out that the .308 will fit in a short action, were a 30-06 takes a standard length action.
     
  7. spack762

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    I perfer the 7.62x54r. Im just sayin:D
     
  8. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    It's a great round!
     
  9. Bull3t

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    Now I realize that all 30 caliber bullets have a diameter of .308 but doesn't the length of brass from caliber 2 caliber effect bullet chambering?
     
  10. theropinfool

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    Short answer yes with an if, long answer no with a but. Most 30 cal bullets will work in most 30 cal rifles. Long as they are with in maximum case over all length.

    If you really want to dive into it, I suggest the hornady reload manual. I like it the best.
     
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  11. Bull3t

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    Ok that makes sense, I am new to reloading. I have read abc's of reloading and am half way through the Lyman reload manual, I'll have to check that one out 2. Thanks for the knowledge.
     
  12. jpattersonnh

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    .308 is a fine cartridge. It is up there w/ .30-06 and .270 as the prefered Moose and black bear round up here. It is only limited in range compared w/ the .30-06. Yes the .30-06 will handle heavier bullets, but the effective range on most larger game is 300 yards compared w/ the .30-06 at 400. It is all about the penetration and energy the bullet imparts to game, bullet construction is a major factor in this. For Whitetail the range stretches out quite a bit. Up here most game is taken within 100 yards, so the .30-06 has no real advantage, except heavier bullets. But a good 165gr will do in everything that walks up here in .308. Many still just use 150gr SP and have great success.
     
  13. ncdeerhunter99

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    A 308 is just like a mini -06 really in deer hunting it doesn't matter but if i had a choice i would use the -06 or 300 mag .
     
  14. ncdeerhunter99

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    My favorite round is a 270 win overall .
     
  15. Yunus

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    I have both but would get a .308 over a 30-06 for one reason. Cheaper ammo. The 30-06 probably has more options for hunting rounds but .308 is easy to find in bulk and I'm not a hunter.
     
  16. shootitout

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    Ok where dose 7.62-54r stand with those.
     
  17. cottontop

    cottontop Guest

    My son was a sniper in Afghanistan. He said he used a .308 w/ a Remington 700 action. He also said it was one hell of an accurate long range round. Anyone see the movie, "A Time to Kill?" In one scene, Kiefer Sutherland used a .308 M700 Remington (a civilian hunting model) when he tried to shoot Matthew McConnighe from a roof top. They zoomed in for a close up on the rifle as he was loading it and you can tell it is a .308 by the size of the cartridge in relation to his hand and the M700 is unmistakeable w/ it's classic bolt handle.
    cottontop
     
  18. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    the 308 and the 30-06 are pretty close in ballistics with a slight edge to the 30-06 for it's having a bit more powder capacity. also i will give the edge to the 30-06 in the heavier bullets also due to powder capacity. both are very accurate and both have served in the military and the 308 still does to some degree. in recoil, the 308 is a bit milder so it does work better for younger shooters than the 30-06. if i had to make a choice between the two of them, i can say it would be a hard choice to make. over the years i have owned many of both of them, but as of right now i have the 308 and plan on soon replacing the 30-06 i traded last year. either one, you can't go wrong!
     
  19. c3shooter

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    Bull- the longer cartridge fits a longer chamber.

    Shootitout- the 7.62X54R is between the .308 and the -06 on energy and ballistics, pretty close to ought six.
     
  20. shootitout

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    thanks because thats what i have and i was looking at a .308 because its a cool round and every non shooter nows it and thinks its cool so but if there so close might need to look for another the 7.62/39 maby. im 15 and my school has a shooting club and guys are alwes one uping each other so.