.308 Build

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by diggsbakes, Mar 13, 2011.

  1. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    OK, I'm now ready for a .308 (again). I've got a well rounded AR-15 family and now I need something with long range punch. The range will soon be adding a 600 yard berm and while I think I could stretch one of my ARs out to that distance (once its done) I want to have the capability of delivering power at that distance.

    SO. It's obviously gonna be an AR-10 or a M-14 (M1A Springfield). Here's where I am getting stuck.

    I'm leaning towards the M14 for 2 reasons. 1.) I'm becoming bored with the AR as I've done several. This would give me a chance to learn another gun. 2.) I hear the M14 is a better distance shooter and very reliable.

    However, I like the AR platform, and feel confident enough that I will be able to repair one in the case of a failure or breakage.

    I would appreciate feedback from folks that are experienced with these rifles or can offer an alternative.


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  2. DinkyDauDon

    DinkyDauDon New Member

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    Here is my 14 built with Troy SASS.

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  3. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    Well.....I MAY be biased, but I'd go with an M14.:D

    Seriously though, either will make you smile.

    But the M14 is more reliable.

    But there is a lot to be said for consistency, too.
     
  4. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Well.

    The .308 is capable of hitting a target at 600. And it is capable of delivering some punch at 600.

    But that is about the "extreme effective" range of that particular round and to get to 600, you are going to need some SERIOUS elevation on your scope. It's a moonshot to be sure.

    With the M14 you will get a weapon that will run no matter what. The gas from the previous round in harnessed just off the barrel and drives a dog legged op rod to cycle the weapon. A much sturdier version than the AK because of the design.

    Even with a well built model, you are going to be challenged to be in the Minute of Angle group at 400-600 yards. At 100? Sure, no problem. But stretch that out and you are going to run into problems based on that same design.

    For this kind of range? I would suggest a different round and a boltgun brother. ;)

    JD
     
  5. russ

    russ New Member

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    Diggs, if you hop over the the west side of the mountains, I'll be happy to take you to the range with my LR308. I think it shows good accuracy potential if I can learn to hold up my end of the bargain. It was a pretty easy build with only very minor differences from a 5.56 AR. I have no experience with an M14/M1A so I can't say if I recommend it over one of those or not.
     
  6. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    I guess I should have mentioned that the .308 was chosen because of its NATO distinction and availability. ;) So while the bolt gun is on the way, the next build is gonna be a big bore semi.

    I think that the reliability factor alone is gonna be enough to tip the hat towards the M14.

    Russ, I'd love to get over to the other side of the range and take you up on that offer. I actually make it over there for most of my outdoor activities during the warmer months. Being from the 4-Corners area I am biased towards that side of the Colo. Rockies too. :)
     
  7. russ

    russ New Member

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    Well, there is no expiration date on the offer. So hit me up anytime.

    And Don, that 14 is a thing of beauty. Very nice build.
     
  8. DinkyDauDon

    DinkyDauDon New Member

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    Russ, Thanks. I also have a LAR308 that shoots great!

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  9. laynejc

    laynejc New Member

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    I would/am going with the M14. LRB makes a receiver that has a great sturdy scope mount, its their m25 receiver, kind of pricey but from my understanding they are the best in business in the m14 receivers. I have shot both and I would say it is more of a personal preference between the m14 and the ar10. The m14 is gas piston, and the ar10 is gas impingment.
     
  10. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    I've made my mind up on the M14, it's definitely for me, but I gotta sell some toys first!

    :eek:
     
  11. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    You NEED an M14. Now, get those guns sold and make some cash.:p
     
  12. laynejc

    laynejc New Member

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    I do not condone the selling of guns, unless you are absoulutly sure that they will not be missed. However you will not be disappointed with an m14. Are you going to build one or buy one assembled?
     
  13. diggsbakes

    diggsbakes New Member

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    The guns in question are not even built yet so I don't think I'll be too attached. . . ;) I'm gonna buy the first one. I'm burned out on working on guns and just need to shoot for a while. Been working so much I only have time for one of the two right now. . .
     
  14. laynejc

    laynejc New Member

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    As I have been told, look for a high USGI parts count. The GI quality is better than most production. Get a few extra GI extractors. Check the post I had made, m14srock gives good info in them. You can also learn alot about them from the m14 forum. Will be looking forward to the pictures.