30-3- vs. .50 beowulf

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by colmustard, Jan 26, 2011.

  1. colmustard

    colmustard New Member

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    Ok so I have a marlin 30-30 ( great deer fifle), but have been looking at the .50 beowulf, what does it do that a 30-30 canot do? Is there any real aplication that makes the hefty price tag worht it?
     
  2. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Tough to answer, you thinkin' an AR platform?

    Still for deer hunting?

    I would look at the 458SOCOM for custom reloading options.

    All the bullets used in the loading of the 45-70 are at your disposal.

    Much more utility to be gained with the 458, the .50 Beo, not so much.
     

  3. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    most effective 30-30 loading is about 2000ftlbs energy at the muzzle
    .50 beowulf is about 3100 ftlbs at the muzzle for its most effective loading.

    its not really fair to class the 30-30 against the .50.

    if you want some big knockdown for hunting at close range with quick follow ups as in bear or hog i wouldnt be packing a lever or bolt 30-30.

    for deer or paper doesnt matter.

    i use the 458 socom as my big bore ar15 choice.

    full rebated rim cartridges like the 50 are difficult to load on progressive machines with case feeders. ammo is pricey and difficult to find at walmart.

    if you already have an ar15 it might be a viable option.

    just depends on what your gonna use it for.
     
  4. colmustard

    colmustard New Member

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    Thanks for the quick sanswers, I will look into the .458 socom which seems like a nice shoice. I do have an colt AR and my consider a new upper. But with 30-30 vs. the .50 I was thinking deer, I dont hog hunt up here, and was just thinking of somthing new for deer up to and around 100 yards. If there is not much to gain with deer hunting with the .50 over the 30-30 then I guess I could pass.
     
  5. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't get the .50 Beuwolf just because of the ammo costs. You can reload for the .458 socom pretty cheap.
     
  6. canebrake

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    Jebuses, I'm gonna sound like JD but you may have trouble finding a big pin SOCOM upper for your Colt.

    Nobody tell JD I said that. :eek:
     
  7. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    Doesn't someone make a conversion kit?
     
  8. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    these work just fine

    DPMS Offset Screw and Nut AR-15 Matte - MidwayUSA

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    one other thing the 50 beowulf has to have special mags. the 458 socom uses standard unmodified ar15 mags.

    i use mine for deer hunting. i cant stress how good a deer round the 458 socom is with 350grn soft points. very little meat damage huge shock value kills the deer pretty much instantly. no tracking needed.
     
  9. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    If no one made one I was going to consider machining something that that is almost exactly what I had in mind. I was going to do something different then just a slot though.
     
  10. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    BEO will have feed issues.

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    458, decisions, decisions, decisions.
     
  11. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    there are several different versions the one i used for my sp1 was actually made by colt. that was just the first one i ran across on a google search.
     
  12. colmustard

    colmustard New Member

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    Ok so if I go 458 socom, what do I need to do? And what other game can it be used for, what about somthing bigger than buck? Also what kind of range does it have? You have perked my intrest in this round.:)
     
  13. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Well-Known Member

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    The .458 Socom provides stout 45/70 ballistics from an AR15 platform. Anything you can use the 45/70 on you can use the .458 Socom on-that means anything in North America within it's range limitations.
     
  14. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Go with the 458 SOCOM. Rock River makes a good one both in rifles and an upper assembly. You can get ammunition for it or dies to reload it.

    03
     
  15. IGETEVEN

    IGETEVEN New Member

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    Indeed. What they both said. 458 SOCOM is a better choice and a more reliable performer.
     
  16. colmustard

    colmustard New Member

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    Ok thanks a bunch guys. I may look into getting one.
     
  17. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    +5.

    Everything on the planet short of cape buffalo and elephant.

    Max hunting range 150-200 yds. 200 extreme upper limit.

    The rra one or directly from teppojutsu. Mine is a rra midlength.